Post by SmashKing201 on Jan 18, 2011 3:09:16 GMT -5
Since the previous forum was deleted, Im reposting my topic
In Smash Bros, we have classic characters that represent Nintendo's past. Ice Climbers & Pit both represent 2 classic NES games and Mr. GAW & ROB represent Nintendo's classic handheld & gadgets. Many have already started making their own rosters with 2 new classic characters for SSB4. Characters like Balloon Fighter, Sukapon, Takamaru, etc. But to me, I see one character that is being over-looked big time. Im talking about the Duck Hunt Dog.
Now many feel that he is not a good choice but I disagree. While some of the retro characters listed above are known gaming characters, Duck Hunt Dog is an iconic gaming character and is well known outside of the gaming world by both gamers and non-gamers alike. That to me is a good note of notoriety. Duck Hunt was a big deal in the 80's and a great game after the Mario series, and one of the very few games that were good enough to share a cartridge with the great Mario series. He gets many mentions and honors out of that one game alone. His game has appeared in movies and television (Boyz N Da Hood, I Love The 80's, etc.), there is a band or a song named after him, hundreds of parodies have been made about him on youtube, has been voted the most annoying character, voted as top villain due to his laughter. Now some may see these awards as a negative, but if you think about it, its a positive. While most of NES characters became unsuccessful or forgotten, Duck Hunt Dog is still remembered and still gets mentioned, plus these awards show that he can still gain the gaming world's attention. Plus there were many games afterward that have paid homage to the Duck Hunt series by having mini-games similar to it. Duck Hunt games is what made the NES Zapper so popular, plus Duck Hunt was one of NES's launch games. Think about it, one of the first successful Nintendo games on its very first console. Plus the notoriety the dog has gained inside and outside the gaming world.
Mr. GAW, Pit, Ice Climbers, & ROB never gained as much iconic fame as Duck Hunt Dog, so adding him will be epic. Getting the chance to hit the Dog with many attacks would be epic and 25 years in the making. Or if you want to be on the other end of things, Duck Hunt Dog can be a very good playable character and can possibly be a top tier if his moves are made just right.
Balloon Fighter is a great choice of a character since his mini-games are often mentioned or honored to this day in certain games, and may look like he could get in before DHD. But the Dog has more fame overall many classic characters. Balloon Fighter and Duck Hunt Dog are my next 2 choices of retro characters for SSB4 while Little Mac will stand out as a series on his own since Punch Out is now starting to become more recurring since its resurrection on the Wii. Sukapon and Takamaru sounds like interesting characters, but both never saw much fame outside Japan and really dont bring nothing new to the table while Duck Hunt Dog is known worldwide as I mentioned before. Smash Bros is known as Nintendo's All-Star, yet Duck Hunt Dog is the most famous classic and retro character and it not playable.
If anyone thinks he doesnt have a fighting chance or a moveset is not possible, then here is my moveset for him also.
This is a video I made of his Special Attacks, Final Smash, Stage, Stage Music, Victory Theme, and Taunt
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIhxjCCHXj0
If you dont want to see the video here are the ideas.
Up B- Ducks - he uses 2 Ducks to fly back on stage (works like Snake's Up B)
Standard B- NES Zapper, he uses the NES Zapper, has good knockback
Side B- Clay Disc - he throws a Clay Disc, fast move, good range attack, breaks and stuns foe when making contact.
Down B- Pounce - You know how he jumps in the grass before each round? we can make it his Pounce attack, works like Diddy's and Ganondorf's Side B.
Final Smash- Duck Hunt- play as the hunter and can shoot enemies from offscreen, works like Snake's final smash.
Stage- Duck Field - the field from Duck Hunt can be a flat playable stage, with the only hazards there are ducks flying out of the tall grass, sometimes getting in the characters way during a fight or bring out an item. The stage will be the size of Final Destination and can only KO enemies by off the side of the stage or Star KO.
Stage Music
Title Theme
Game Start Theme
Clay Shooting Theme
Victory Theme
Stage Clear Theme from Duck Hunt.
Taunt
his infamous laugh
want more details of special attacks, final smash, stage, etc. just click the link I posted above and watch.
Now here are the rest of his movesets.
Character Name: Duck Hunt Dog
Game Series: Duck Hunt
Emblem/Symbol: Duck
Stats
Size: 2.5/5 (between Fox & Mario height)
Speed: 4/5 (good speed due to size and dogs are fast to react)
Strength: 3/5 (average strength due to size)
Weight: 3.5/5 (decent weight)
Recovery: 4/5 (Up B and Down B gives him a recovery chance)
Gravity: 3/5 (he falls to an average speed)
Abilities
Wall Jumps: No
Wall Grabs: No
Glide: No
Crawl: Yes, he would crouch, be on all four feets and sniff the ground as he crawls, like Wario's Crawl.
Teather Recovery: No
Control
Stand: Stands on 2 legs, with arms pumping up and down on his side as if he is angered. Think of Wario's stance.
Walk: He tip toes forward on 2 legs as if he is trying to sneak up like a hunter with arms spread to keep balance.
Run: He runs on all 4 legs.
Dash: He dashes on all 4 legs with tongue sticking out. Fox speed.
Jumps
Jump 1: uses back legs to jump up as arms expand a bit
Jump 2: uses back legs for more height in mid-air with paws in the air for a bit more reach.
A attacks
A: Slaps with left paw. (2% damage)
AA: slaps with left paw a 2nd time (2% damage)
AAA: slap upward (uppercut) with right paw (3% damage)
Side Tilt: Headbutt Jab: quickly jabbing his foe with a forward headbutt (4% damage)
Down Tilt: Paw Sweep: crouches down and swings his paw in front of him, like DK down tilt. (4% damage)
Up Tilt: Paw Swipes: He leaps up a very short distance and swipes his left paw, then right paw upward. quick 2 combo attack. (3% damage per hit)
Air Attacks
Neutral Air: Spins in a cartwheel in place, think of Mario's taunt. good air 4 hit combo (2% damage per combo hit)
Forward Air: 2 Paw Smack: does a meteor smash by smacking both paws (open hand) forward. Think of DK's Forward Air, but faster and without the spinning. (9% damage)
Back Air: Donkey Kick: kicks back with both hind legs like a donkey (7% damage)
Down Air: Mid-Air Stomps: another mid-air combo, stomps downward repeatialy, left foot then right foot, and same way again. 4 hit combo as his foe goes down with him. (2% damage per hit)
Up Air: Dog Back Flip : he does a back flip the same way a real dog would, with a quick leap and paws suspended in front of his chest. picture how a real dog does a backflip. simple backflip (6% damage)
Grab
How He Grabs: he clutches his paws on his foes chest like a real dog.
Grab Strikes: he jaw locks on the foes face with a few crunches as he growls. he may drool also. (2% damage per crunch)
Grab Forward: he thrust his forehead forward performing a headbutt, sending his foes flying forward (8% damage)
Grab Backward: does a monkey flip by keeping a hold of his foe and falls back, then kicking them back behind him (8% damage)
Grab Upward: throws them above his head and slaps them with his paw sending them up higher (7% damage)
Grab Downward: jaw locks his foe, pins them down, and shakes his head left and right as he still has them on jaw lock while growling. Think of how a real dog plays with his chew toy. (7% damage)
Smash Attacks
Side Smash: Duck Smack: he cops his arm behind his back and slaps you with a duck as he holds the duck by its neck. feathers fly out and duck quacks also when it makes contact. (15% damage when fully charged)
Up Smash: Ferocious Bite: he crouches as he looks up. lets out a big bark, jumps in the air, and takes a big bite upward. 2 hit combo also. (13% damage when fully charged)
Down Smash: Tail Chase: stands on his 4 legs, turns head around to look at tail with an angered face, and rapidly chases it (spinning fast) in place. 5 hit combo attack. Works like Pikachus Down Smash, without the lightning ofcourse. (3% damage per combo hit when fully charged, equals to 15% damage)
Dash Attack: Roll Over: leaps and he rolls on his side forward 3 times with a 3 hit combo. (3% damage per combo hit equals to 9% damage)
Ledge Attack: Front Dropkick: he leaps forward and does a front dropkick with both legs.
OTHERS
Entrance: a patch of tall grass appears and he jumps out the grass and barks.
Up Taunt: pulls out 2 ducks by their necks and looks at the screen with a smile (same taunt he does from his game after you shoot 2 ducks)
Side Taunt: looks left and right as he sniffs (as if he spotted something)
Down Taunt: his infamous laugh (paw on mouth with a grin, chucks and giggles while his ears flop around)
Victory Taunt 1: dances around in circles while holding 2 ducks
Victory Taunt 2: sniffs the ground and leaps off the side screen as he barks
Victory Taunt 3: a patch of tall grass is present, he pops out and laughs, and goes back into the grass.
Losing Taunt: while most characters just clap for the winner, not Duck Hunt Dog. he will instead have gun powder on his face and be on crutches with a cast on his leg and a mean look. a classic image from VS Duck Hunt game.
In Smash Bros, we have classic characters that represent Nintendo's past. Ice Climbers & Pit both represent 2 classic NES games and Mr. GAW & ROB represent Nintendo's classic handheld & gadgets. Many have already started making their own rosters with 2 new classic characters for SSB4. Characters like Balloon Fighter, Sukapon, Takamaru, etc. But to me, I see one character that is being over-looked big time. Im talking about the Duck Hunt Dog.
Now many feel that he is not a good choice but I disagree. While some of the retro characters listed above are known gaming characters, Duck Hunt Dog is an iconic gaming character and is well known outside of the gaming world by both gamers and non-gamers alike. That to me is a good note of notoriety. Duck Hunt was a big deal in the 80's and a great game after the Mario series, and one of the very few games that were good enough to share a cartridge with the great Mario series. He gets many mentions and honors out of that one game alone. His game has appeared in movies and television (Boyz N Da Hood, I Love The 80's, etc.), there is a band or a song named after him, hundreds of parodies have been made about him on youtube, has been voted the most annoying character, voted as top villain due to his laughter. Now some may see these awards as a negative, but if you think about it, its a positive. While most of NES characters became unsuccessful or forgotten, Duck Hunt Dog is still remembered and still gets mentioned, plus these awards show that he can still gain the gaming world's attention. Plus there were many games afterward that have paid homage to the Duck Hunt series by having mini-games similar to it. Duck Hunt games is what made the NES Zapper so popular, plus Duck Hunt was one of NES's launch games. Think about it, one of the first successful Nintendo games on its very first console. Plus the notoriety the dog has gained inside and outside the gaming world.
Mr. GAW, Pit, Ice Climbers, & ROB never gained as much iconic fame as Duck Hunt Dog, so adding him will be epic. Getting the chance to hit the Dog with many attacks would be epic and 25 years in the making. Or if you want to be on the other end of things, Duck Hunt Dog can be a very good playable character and can possibly be a top tier if his moves are made just right.
Balloon Fighter is a great choice of a character since his mini-games are often mentioned or honored to this day in certain games, and may look like he could get in before DHD. But the Dog has more fame overall many classic characters. Balloon Fighter and Duck Hunt Dog are my next 2 choices of retro characters for SSB4 while Little Mac will stand out as a series on his own since Punch Out is now starting to become more recurring since its resurrection on the Wii. Sukapon and Takamaru sounds like interesting characters, but both never saw much fame outside Japan and really dont bring nothing new to the table while Duck Hunt Dog is known worldwide as I mentioned before. Smash Bros is known as Nintendo's All-Star, yet Duck Hunt Dog is the most famous classic and retro character and it not playable.
If anyone thinks he doesnt have a fighting chance or a moveset is not possible, then here is my moveset for him also.
This is a video I made of his Special Attacks, Final Smash, Stage, Stage Music, Victory Theme, and Taunt
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIhxjCCHXj0
If you dont want to see the video here are the ideas.
Up B- Ducks - he uses 2 Ducks to fly back on stage (works like Snake's Up B)
Standard B- NES Zapper, he uses the NES Zapper, has good knockback
Side B- Clay Disc - he throws a Clay Disc, fast move, good range attack, breaks and stuns foe when making contact.
Down B- Pounce - You know how he jumps in the grass before each round? we can make it his Pounce attack, works like Diddy's and Ganondorf's Side B.
Final Smash- Duck Hunt- play as the hunter and can shoot enemies from offscreen, works like Snake's final smash.
Stage- Duck Field - the field from Duck Hunt can be a flat playable stage, with the only hazards there are ducks flying out of the tall grass, sometimes getting in the characters way during a fight or bring out an item. The stage will be the size of Final Destination and can only KO enemies by off the side of the stage or Star KO.
Stage Music
Title Theme
Game Start Theme
Clay Shooting Theme
Victory Theme
Stage Clear Theme from Duck Hunt.
Taunt
his infamous laugh
want more details of special attacks, final smash, stage, etc. just click the link I posted above and watch.
Now here are the rest of his movesets.
Character Name: Duck Hunt Dog
Game Series: Duck Hunt
Emblem/Symbol: Duck
Stats
Size: 2.5/5 (between Fox & Mario height)
Speed: 4/5 (good speed due to size and dogs are fast to react)
Strength: 3/5 (average strength due to size)
Weight: 3.5/5 (decent weight)
Recovery: 4/5 (Up B and Down B gives him a recovery chance)
Gravity: 3/5 (he falls to an average speed)
Abilities
Wall Jumps: No
Wall Grabs: No
Glide: No
Crawl: Yes, he would crouch, be on all four feets and sniff the ground as he crawls, like Wario's Crawl.
Teather Recovery: No
Control
Stand: Stands on 2 legs, with arms pumping up and down on his side as if he is angered. Think of Wario's stance.
Walk: He tip toes forward on 2 legs as if he is trying to sneak up like a hunter with arms spread to keep balance.
Run: He runs on all 4 legs.
Dash: He dashes on all 4 legs with tongue sticking out. Fox speed.
Jumps
Jump 1: uses back legs to jump up as arms expand a bit
Jump 2: uses back legs for more height in mid-air with paws in the air for a bit more reach.
A attacks
A: Slaps with left paw. (2% damage)
AA: slaps with left paw a 2nd time (2% damage)
AAA: slap upward (uppercut) with right paw (3% damage)
Side Tilt: Headbutt Jab: quickly jabbing his foe with a forward headbutt (4% damage)
Down Tilt: Paw Sweep: crouches down and swings his paw in front of him, like DK down tilt. (4% damage)
Up Tilt: Paw Swipes: He leaps up a very short distance and swipes his left paw, then right paw upward. quick 2 combo attack. (3% damage per hit)
Air Attacks
Neutral Air: Spins in a cartwheel in place, think of Mario's taunt. good air 4 hit combo (2% damage per combo hit)
Forward Air: 2 Paw Smack: does a meteor smash by smacking both paws (open hand) forward. Think of DK's Forward Air, but faster and without the spinning. (9% damage)
Back Air: Donkey Kick: kicks back with both hind legs like a donkey (7% damage)
Down Air: Mid-Air Stomps: another mid-air combo, stomps downward repeatialy, left foot then right foot, and same way again. 4 hit combo as his foe goes down with him. (2% damage per hit)
Up Air: Dog Back Flip : he does a back flip the same way a real dog would, with a quick leap and paws suspended in front of his chest. picture how a real dog does a backflip. simple backflip (6% damage)
Grab
How He Grabs: he clutches his paws on his foes chest like a real dog.
Grab Strikes: he jaw locks on the foes face with a few crunches as he growls. he may drool also. (2% damage per crunch)
Grab Forward: he thrust his forehead forward performing a headbutt, sending his foes flying forward (8% damage)
Grab Backward: does a monkey flip by keeping a hold of his foe and falls back, then kicking them back behind him (8% damage)
Grab Upward: throws them above his head and slaps them with his paw sending them up higher (7% damage)
Grab Downward: jaw locks his foe, pins them down, and shakes his head left and right as he still has them on jaw lock while growling. Think of how a real dog plays with his chew toy. (7% damage)
Smash Attacks
Side Smash: Duck Smack: he cops his arm behind his back and slaps you with a duck as he holds the duck by its neck. feathers fly out and duck quacks also when it makes contact. (15% damage when fully charged)
Up Smash: Ferocious Bite: he crouches as he looks up. lets out a big bark, jumps in the air, and takes a big bite upward. 2 hit combo also. (13% damage when fully charged)
Down Smash: Tail Chase: stands on his 4 legs, turns head around to look at tail with an angered face, and rapidly chases it (spinning fast) in place. 5 hit combo attack. Works like Pikachus Down Smash, without the lightning ofcourse. (3% damage per combo hit when fully charged, equals to 15% damage)
Dash Attack: Roll Over: leaps and he rolls on his side forward 3 times with a 3 hit combo. (3% damage per combo hit equals to 9% damage)
Ledge Attack: Front Dropkick: he leaps forward and does a front dropkick with both legs.
OTHERS
Entrance: a patch of tall grass appears and he jumps out the grass and barks.
Up Taunt: pulls out 2 ducks by their necks and looks at the screen with a smile (same taunt he does from his game after you shoot 2 ducks)
Side Taunt: looks left and right as he sniffs (as if he spotted something)
Down Taunt: his infamous laugh (paw on mouth with a grin, chucks and giggles while his ears flop around)
Victory Taunt 1: dances around in circles while holding 2 ducks
Victory Taunt 2: sniffs the ground and leaps off the side screen as he barks
Victory Taunt 3: a patch of tall grass is present, he pops out and laughs, and goes back into the grass.
Losing Taunt: while most characters just clap for the winner, not Duck Hunt Dog. he will instead have gun powder on his face and be on crutches with a cast on his leg and a mean look. a classic image from VS Duck Hunt game.
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