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Post by DGN on Feb 12, 2011 13:01:50 GMT -5
Inferno isn't an ability.
Its Crash. An ability I find enjoyable and much better than the bake ability.
@sp: He explodes with crash, Kirby flys around everywhere with explosions, and people fly away.
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 12, 2011 18:50:06 GMT -5
Basically the whole screen explodes.  Try it! |
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Post by StayPuft on Feb 12, 2011 23:07:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I did, it makes little to no sense to how to use it effectively.
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 12, 2011 23:51:00 GMT -5
Well, actually, it is avoidable. If your enemy is in the air, they have a short time to air dodge before the explosion.
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Post by DGN on Feb 13, 2011 10:32:41 GMT -5
And, during 4-player matches, you can get as far away as kirby as posssible, and the crash only hurts the other players in that area.
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Post by diego222 on Feb 15, 2011 0:27:27 GMT -5
Ok its all right. I understand. Thanks for the detailed and technical explanation.  No problem, but guess what? I decided you were right. After playing a bit with Kirby and struggling with a few matchups (especially Goku), I gave him a few buffs: - Forward Smash moves farther
- Forward Tilt makes Kirby move forward, increasing its range considerably
- Back Air has more knockback
- Fighter Kirby's Uppercut has more invincibility
- Down Tilt has slightly more hitstun and has 0 frame disadvantage on shield.
Good? No.......its AWESOME! Thank you so much again. I guess the only things missing now are the stone and up-grab bugs and the falcon punch ability. I like more his final smash in this game. |
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 15, 2011 8:29:00 GMT -5
No.......its AWESOME! Thank you so much again. I guess the only things missing now are the stone and up-grab bugs and the falcon punch ability. I like more his final smash in this game. Oh, I forgot to mention the Stone sliding. I made that work. It took a while, since there was a bug with slopes that I hadn't realized (hopefully no one else has either). So yeah, Onett is fun with Kirby now because you slide on all the buildings. |
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Post by diego222 on Feb 15, 2011 22:51:29 GMT -5
Oh cool! I might want to try that as soon as the next demo comes out. Guess Kirby now needs two more fixes in his moveset to work perfect in the game. Wait, if you say that you fixed also a bug with the slopes that will not affect any other character, then Im guessing thatattacks involving slopes, floor and walls also now work?? Like Pikachu's thunder jolt or Young Link´s bombchu?
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 16, 2011 14:47:26 GMT -5
Oh cool! I might want to try that as soon as the next demo comes out. Guess Kirby now needs two more fixes in his moveset to work perfect in the game. Wait, if you say that you fixed also a bug with the slopes that will not affect any other character, then Im guessing thatattacks involving slopes, floor and walls also now work?? Like Pikachu's thunder jolt or Young Link´s bombchu? Oh, I'm still in need of a fix for those. I made it hard on myself to make those work. The bug was sort of along the same lines as Lucas's Slope Slide, but not as obvious. |
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 20, 2011 13:20:13 GMT -5
Boink. News for Kirby! Kirby now gets the Parasol ability from Peach and Toad! On the ground, he swats in front of himself with a quick attack using the parasol.  In the air, he can do the same attack, or by holding B, he can begin gliding down slowly.   Pressing Down or Shield will cancel the floating. This can make for some interesting mind games, since Kirby can still jump after doing this. |
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Post by PartisanDaw on Feb 20, 2011 13:29:45 GMT -5
Thats AWESOME!
Now he*cought* nedds Falcon punch *cought*
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 20, 2011 13:33:23 GMT -5
Haha... I am working on it. Just need to make the sprites.
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Post by PartisanDaw on Feb 20, 2011 13:44:40 GMT -5
His first jab + Falcon Punch Falcon. lol
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Post by DGN on Feb 20, 2011 13:54:00 GMT -5
Sounds like fun, but Toad doesn't really seem like a parasol guy...
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 20, 2011 13:58:31 GMT -5
Well, what then? Which ability? (Before now, he was Random)
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Post by DGN on Feb 20, 2011 14:03:28 GMT -5
My only fitting guess is:
Clean Kirby, since Toad's are often known to help out the princess, and I guess cleaning counts as something....
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Post by PartisanDaw on Feb 20, 2011 14:06:52 GMT -5
Well, what then? Which ability? (Before now, he was Random) Random?I thought he gets the Blaster. |
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Post by gigapichu on Feb 20, 2011 18:21:00 GMT -5
This is what I think would be nice for Kirby-
Warrior characters (Goku, Ryu) -Fighter Kirby
Kirby does an Uppercut
Wimpy Characters (Peach, Toad) -Parasol Kirby
Kirby hits/flies with Parasol
Bomb Users (Bomberman, Waluigi) -Bomb Kirby
Kirby can throw Bombs
Sword Users (Link, Meta Kinght) -Sword Kirby
Kirby can do a Combo-Slash attack
Fire Users (Mario, Luigi) -Fire Kirby
Kirby can become a Fireball for a bit
Vehicle Users (Wario, Mach Rider) -Wheel Kirby
Kirby rolls around like Yoshi's Egg Roll, but Faster
Gun Users (Saki, Krystal) -Lazer Kirby
Kirby can fire a small Lazer Beam, and it is chargeable
You get the picture.I dunno if you can program it all, though.
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 21, 2011 0:10:41 GMT -5
This is what I think would be nice for Kirby- Warrior characters (Goku, Ryu) -Fighter Kirby Kirby does an Uppercut Wimpy Characters (Peach, Toad) -Parasol Kirby Kirby hits/flies with Parasol Bomb Users (Bomberman, Waluigi) -Bomb Kirby Kirby can throw Bombs Sword Users (Link, Meta Kinght) -Sword Kirby Kirby can do a Combo-Slash attack Fire Users (Mario, Luigi) -Fire Kirby Kirby can become a Fireball for a bit Vehicle Users (Wario, Mach Rider) -Wheel Kirby Kirby rolls around like Yoshi's Egg Roll, but Faster Gun Users (Saki, Krystal) -Lazer Kirby Kirby can fire a small Lazer Beam, and it is chargeable You get the picture.I dunno if you can program it all, though. Scarily enough. I can. ;D Most of those abilities are already in the game. I think Fire Kirby will still breathe fire, but his Dash Attack will change to the one from Melee. Cool, huh? |
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Post by diego222 on Feb 22, 2011 2:06:10 GMT -5
I liked the parasol ability update Falcon8r. But I think you should also make Kirby stay holding the parasol at the front and start spinning it after the normal attack if you hold the special button which could reflect projectiles (or if you think this may be overpowered just block projectiles) and cause little damage to opponents who touch the parasol while it is spinning. He could do this in some games and the parasol ability is supposely a more defensive power than an offensive one since when you have it, it makes you fall slower and it also protects you from projectiles coming from above. Also I think you should still make some characters give Kirby a random ability but not a random one for the whole battle, instead make them give Kirby a random ability for everytime he absorbs him/her. Like for example the first time you absorb this character it gives you the sword ability while the second time you absorb this same character again in the same battle it gives you the fire ability. And also I agree with your idea of the melee burning ability when Kirby has the fire ability and uses a dash attack. |
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