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Post by sumika on Apr 26, 2011 20:58:53 GMT -5
Melee - You only get one use at a time and can only move in 8 directions or dodge in the same place you used it. After use, it put you into special fall. A physics exploit with this dodge is the infamous AT Wavedashing. Commonly used to separate the "Skilled" melee players from the "newbs".
Brawl - You have free movement in the air while you dodge, and can use it multiple times in a row. No SpecialFall. No Physics Exploits. Usually the proclaimed worse of the two air dodges.
Please post which you prefer and why. Would you like to see Crusade use Melee's or keep Brawls? Maybe an Option to use either or? Post your comments/concerns/ideas here.
Keep arguments friendly.
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Post by Dettadeus on Apr 26, 2011 21:01:34 GMT -5
I still support the idea of a "Cruselee" having Melee-like physics. I wouldn't mind wavedashing, but just imagine how hard it would be to do on a keyboard.
Also, that makes it much harder to dodge final smashes like Volt Tackle and Super Sonic.
So:
Separate versions of the game: Yes.
Replacing the current style: Not really.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Apr 26, 2011 21:10:02 GMT -5
I say a mix of both.
Using the dodge without imputing a direction should work like Brawl's to where you can use it multiple times, but if you press a direction while dodging, it works like Melee's where you move in that direction, and go into Helpless Mode.
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Post by falcon8r on Apr 26, 2011 22:30:58 GMT -5
I say a mix of both. Using the dodge without imputing a direction should work like Brawl's to where you can use it multiple times, but if you press a direction while dodging, it works like Melee's where you move in that direction, and go into Helpless Mode. Hm... But then, it would be hard to move around while using the Brawl air dodge. Honestly, I have no problem replacing the current air dodge with the Melee one if the fans will be happy. Maybe there could be an option in the game to change it? |
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Post by Dettadeus on Apr 26, 2011 22:34:19 GMT -5
The only problem with that is when a Brawl player meets a Melee player and they want to duke it out in Crusade. Unless it would be like a P1/P2 kind of thing.
I point back to Cruselee. I think having a second version would be pleasing to a larger audience, especially if you want to pull in Melee players and keep Brawl players.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Apr 26, 2011 22:50:03 GMT -5
I say a mix of both. Using the dodge without imputing a direction should work like Brawl's to where you can use it multiple times, but if you press a direction while dodging, it works like Melee's where you move in that direction, and go into Helpless Mode. Hm... But then, it would be hard to move around while using the Brawl air dodge. Honestly, I have no problem replacing the current air dodge with the Melee one if the fans will be happy. Maybe there could be an option in the game to change it? TBH, I don't think Brawl's is that useful in moving to begin with... |
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Post by falcon8r on Apr 26, 2011 22:59:31 GMT -5
Hm... But then, it would be hard to move around while using the Brawl air dodge. Honestly, I have no problem replacing the current air dodge with the Melee one if the fans will be happy. Maybe there could be an option in the game to change it? TBH, I don't think Brawl's is that useful in moving to begin with... What I'm saying is that if you're already holding a direction when you're air dodging, you'll do a Melee air dodge. This means that you'll have to release all directions and lose momentum in order to use Brawl air dodges. about Cruselee: I don't think releasing a separate game is necessary. |
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Post by sumika on Apr 27, 2011 5:11:42 GMT -5
Just an option for it would be fine by me. Or a way to prevent wave dashing.
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Post by Slissith on Apr 27, 2011 6:15:45 GMT -5
They're have been complains regarding the air dodges and thus they are getting fixed in 1.0.
This discussion will not lead anywhere at the moment.
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Post by El Maiz on Apr 27, 2011 7:16:12 GMT -5
It doesn't matter to me, because I disabled shielding and dodging for me. I just didn't map it to a button.
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Post by falcon8r on Apr 27, 2011 10:00:54 GMT -5
It doesn't matter to me, because I disabled shielding and dodging for me. I just didn't map it to a button.  What character do you play?? Anyway, I think the best options are to stick with the Brawl air dodge or include an option to switch between them. |
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Post by DGN on Apr 27, 2011 10:32:23 GMT -5
Anyway, I think the best options are to stick with the Brawl air dodge or include an option to switch between them. Thisthisthisthisthiiiiiiiiiisssssssssssss It'll make Melee players happy and Brawl players happy as well, and it'd probably reduce the amount of wants for a Melee style engine. |
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Post by Slissith on Apr 27, 2011 10:50:34 GMT -5
But then, how would a brawler and a meleer compete with each other?
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Post by sumika on Apr 27, 2011 15:08:57 GMT -5
They dont. Or they come to terms on a dodge.
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Post by El Maiz on Apr 27, 2011 16:12:51 GMT -5
It doesn't matter to me, because I disabled shielding and dodging for me. I just didn't map it to a button. What character do you play?? Anyway, I think the best options are to stick with the Brawl air dodge or include an option to switch between them. Toad and Megaman. A little bit of Evil Ryu. |
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Post by falcon8r on Apr 28, 2011 3:44:36 GMT -5
They dont. Or they come to terms on a dodge. If this is an issue in online play, I'd say only players with matching air dodge settings would be allowed to fight. |
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Post by PartisanDaw on Apr 28, 2011 6:21:40 GMT -5
Dosen't matter to me now.I used to like Melee's but now i don;y mind both.
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What character do you play??
