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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Aug 6, 2011 17:15:43 GMT -5
Viewtiful Joe is more known for Action and Platforming. It is considered a beat em up, but Final Fight is more or less a actual beat em up as there is no Platforming involved.
And as for that, Final Fight is known as the King of the genre.
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Aug 6, 2011 17:43:20 GMT -5
Fire Emblem had 2 newcomers in Melee...
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Post by roymaster4 on Aug 6, 2011 18:09:07 GMT -5
Viewtiful Joe is more known for Action and Platforming. It is considered a beat em up, but Final Fight is more or less a actual beat em up as there is no Platforming involved. Have you played Viewtiful Joe? There's less platforming than something like Metal Slug. It's definitely an action game, true... One of FE's newcomers was a clone... quick and easy to add, and the other one was used as an advertisement. |
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Aug 6, 2011 18:35:16 GMT -5
Actually, roymaster...the clone WAS the advertisement character.
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Post by roymaster4 on Aug 6, 2011 18:50:43 GMT -5
Actually, roymaster...the clone WAS the advertisement character. Nuh uh, Marth took his moveset from Roy  |
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Post by member 777 on Aug 6, 2011 18:54:12 GMT -5
then why is marth in brawl roymaster
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Aug 6, 2011 19:49:54 GMT -5
In SSBM's debug menu, Marth is called Mars (Jap name) and Roy is called Emblem, possibly showing that they intended to have another FE character, but didn't know who. Roy may be the clone.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Aug 6, 2011 19:57:16 GMT -5
There is no MAY. He IS the clone. Marth is always unlocked before Roy, and Roy's box is detatched, just like the other clones.
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Post by roymaster4 on Aug 6, 2011 20:09:19 GMT -5
Marth could only stab with his sword in his original games. He did none of that in Melee (They gave it to him in Brawl). Everything Roy did was a slash. Roy's neutral special comes from his own game! Marth stole it!
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Aug 6, 2011 20:20:52 GMT -5
That may be true, but are you aware that Ness has attacks that others in his series used, but he didn't?
So what if Marth borrowed some sword techniques, he was added in Smash before Roy.
Melee originally didn't have Doc, Pichu, Roy, Ganon, Yink, or Falco. The six of them were added to beef up the roster because Sakurai felt it was too small.
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 6, 2011 20:39:03 GMT -5
That may be true, but are you aware that Ness has attacks that others in his series used, but he didn't? So what if Marth borrowed some sword techniques, he was added in Smash before Roy. Melee originally didn't have Doc, Pichu, Roy, Ganon, Yink, or Falco. The six of them were added to beef up the roster because Sakurai felt it was too small. Not only that, but he added the clones because Melee's development was actually finished a bit early than expected. So he used that extra time to add the clones. |
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Post by dry on Aug 7, 2011 11:43:09 GMT -5
Guys... roymaster clearly really likes Roy, and he's probably his favourite character. Plus, no one knows for sure which was a clone of the other. So there's no proper right or wrong in the argument. As far as I see it, you guys are just trying to drill into a Roy fan that Marth is better. It's like a light version of cyber-bullying. Seriously.
Besides, they're barely clones. They have similar animations and specials, yeah, but their playstyles are different to the extreme. Marth uses speed and hitstun. Roy uses power and range. Just because their moves are similar doesn't make them clones. It's like saying Ganondorf is a clone of Falcon.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Aug 7, 2011 13:08:53 GMT -5
Dry, you have no idea what you're talking about.
We are NOT saying Marth is better, in fact, I prefer Roy myself.
But it IS true that he's a clone (or as Sakurai put it, a "model-swap character"), as he was added AFTER Marth.
And you don't know what a clone is. A clone is a character that copies a character's moves, REGARDLESS of different properties. And yes, Ganon is a clone of Falcon.
Look up Clone on the Smash Wikia and edumacate yourself.
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Post by DGN on Aug 7, 2011 13:26:30 GMT -5
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GET OUT OF WALUIGI TOPIC.
Seriously, though. This rant went from a Chun-Li rant to a FE clone discussion. >_>
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Post by dry on Aug 8, 2011 4:34:18 GMT -5
lol, that's how discussions flow. Anyway, Chun-Li. She's fine in the roster for now, because she was already confirmed for the final roster. She just got in early.
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 8, 2011 5:12:21 GMT -5
We knew Chun Li was planned for the roster, but it surprised me that she got into this demo. I wasnt expecting her till demo 0.8 or later.
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Aug 8, 2011 10:08:45 GMT -5
Falcon made her for something else so we thought it would be nice to have her in the next demo since she's already finished. However, I don't think we'll do that for any other unlockables.
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Post by Chaotic Chao on Aug 11, 2011 17:16:11 GMT -5
Every time I see a character like Chun-li in, it makes me worried that characters I actually care about might not make it, because of the 80 character limit and the constantly adding reps for a single series or company.
How many Capcom reps are there now, anyway?
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Post by dry on Aug 13, 2011 13:13:58 GMT -5
It's between 5-8. Those are the numbers for all three of the "main" 3rd parties (Konami, Sega and Capcom), but I can't remember the exact numbers for each one. If the character you care about is being worked on and has been confirmed, there's no need to worry. If the character you care about is in the wishlist polls and is getting a decent number of votes, it's very unlikely that they'll be cut out. Otherwise, I guess I agree with you.
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Post by Slissith on Aug 13, 2011 14:26:49 GMT -5
The thing is, there are far better, diverse and unique capcom reps out there, such as Haggar, Phoenix and Viewtiful joe.
Compared to those, chun li offers next to nothing.
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