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Post by StayPuft on Aug 11, 2011 15:26:09 GMT -5
SP’s SSB4 Roster
SUPER MARIO BROS. 01. Mario (Dr. Mario as alt) 02. Luigi 03. Princess Peach 04. Bowser 05. Bowser Jr. 06. Toad
DONKEY KONG 07. Donkey Kong 08. Diddy Kong / Dixie Kong 09. King K. Rool
YOSHI'S ISLAND 10. Yoshi
WARIOWARE/LAND 11. Wario
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA 12. Link 13. Zelda / Shiek 14. Ganondorf 15. Toon Link 16. Tetra / Toon Zelda
METROID 17. Samus / Zero Suit Samus 18. Ridley 19. Anthony Higgs
POKéMON 20. Pikachu 21. Pokémon Trainer 22. Zoroark 23. Jigglypuff 24. Lucario 25. Mewtwo
KIRBY SUPERSTAR 26. Kirby 27. Meta Knight 28. King Dedede
STARFOX 29. Fox 30. Falco 31. Wolf
F-ZERO 32. Captain Falcon 33. Black Shadow
EARTHBOUND 34. Ness 35. Lucas
ICE CLIMBER 36. Ice Climbers
GYROMITE 37. R.O.B.
KID ICARUS 38. Pit 39. Medusa
FIRE EMBLEM 40. Marth 41. Ike 42. Roy
PIKMIN 43. Olimar
GAME & WATCH 44. Mr. Game & Watch
GOLDEN SUN 45. Isaac
CHIBI-ROBO 46. Chibi-Robo
METAL GEAR 47. Snake
SONIC THE HEDGEHOG 48. Sonic
NINTENDO 49. Mii
NAZO no MURASAME-jo 50. Takamaru
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Post by DGN on Aug 11, 2011 15:30:30 GMT -5
Anthony Higgs? OVER RIDLEY? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EDIT: Uh.... Zoroark/Victini>B/W Trainer Demillie isn't necessary needs moar isaac/matthew and isa/saki
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Post by StayPuft on Aug 11, 2011 15:37:15 GMT -5
Ridley is too big, you saw how big he was compared to every other character in Brawl. Only other Metroid rep I could think of was Anthony.
The reason I have B/W trainer is because I didn't want to cut Lucario, Mewtwo, or Jiggs. Of course Pikachu can't be cut either, this left Pokémon Trainer to be cut. I do like the idea of a trainer, though, so I turned him into B/W Trainer.
I like Demille.
Isaac is there.
Also, could you edit your post so that it doesn't stretch the page?
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Aug 11, 2011 15:39:08 GMT -5
SP’s SSB4 Roster 01. Mario 02. Luigi 03. Peach 04. Toad 05. Bowser 06. Yoshi 07. Wario 08. Donkey Kong 09. Diddy Kong 10. King K. Rool 11. Link 12. Zelda/Shiek 13. Ganondorf 14. Toon Link 15. Tetra/Toon Zelda Like I said in AEM's, Tetra alone or Phantom Zelda instead of either. Toon Zelda is a lighter version of an already light character.16. Samus/Zero Suit Samus 17. Anthony Higgs As much as I would like him in, Ridley has more priority. Higgs would be great as a third character.18. Pikachu 19. Jigglypuff 20. Black/White Trainer Pokemon Trainer and his Pokemon are going nowhere. They weren't added because they were the latest Trainers. Otherwise we would've had a D/P Trainer with D/P Pokemon.21. Lucario 22. Mewtwo 23. Kirby 24. Meta Knight 25. King Dedede 26. Fox 27. Falco 28. Wolf 29. Captain Falcon 30. Black Shadow 31. Ness 32. Lucas 33. Ice Climbers 34. R.O.B. 35. Pit 36. Medusa 37. Marth 38. Ike 39. Roy 40. Olimar 41. Isaac 42. Mr. Game & Watch 43. Takamaru 44. Chibi-Robo 45. DeMille (Tomato Adventures) Ehh....doesn't seem to likely to me, but because I don't know him that much, I can't say much.46. Snake 47. Sonic 48. Mii Responses.
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 11, 2011 15:42:26 GMT -5
Ridley over Anthony Higgs. For obvious reasons.
To be honestly, I'm starting to question Takamaru as of late. Maybe its biased or not, but here is something to think about for a minute.
Have you noticed that every Smash Bros game that featured retro characters were characters that have appeared in both NES & Famicon or in Mr. G&W's case their own handheld & Gameboy? Characters like Takamaru only had one game, and 1 appearance in the states. Also, some cameo appearances, but Japan only. Sakurai's favor in Takamaru is a fact. If Golden's statement of Sakurai willing to add Takamaru in Smash if he had a new game is true, then I think Takamaru's chances may have slightly dropped. I say this because even though he appeared as a playable character in Samurai Warriors 3, it still wasn't his game and just being playable for that small role. But here is another trick question, if Takamaru did come out with a sequel game to his series, would he still be considered retro?
Overall, if we were to get new retro characters, I think it will be a retro character that has appeared in both NES & Famicon. The only 3 high candidates of retro characters who have appeared on both versions of the first Nintendo console are Balloon Fighter, Duck Hunt Dog, & Mike Jones.
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Post by DGN on Aug 11, 2011 15:43:10 GMT -5
Also, could you edit your post so that it doesn't stretch the page? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-jk Anyways, I say scratch Demille for Saki, B/W trainer for Pokemon Trainer, Anthony for Ridley, and maybe toon Zelda and the roster would be perfect IMO.
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Post by StayPuft on Aug 11, 2011 15:48:11 GMT -5
Toon Zelda wouldn't be a clone (thats what I'm assuming you mean as a "lighter version"), as she has different things available to her that the current Zelda in smash doesn't have. Only thing she'd copy would be transforming. Course I can't say that Sakurai wouldn't make her a clone...
Like I said before, Ridley is too big imo. I know he has more priority over Higgs and is more important to the series as a whole, but I think he is too big to be considered. I know characters have been resized before (Olimar is an example), but Ridley is different in that we know Ridley is huge compared to the rest of the smash roster (look at SSE), and shrinking him down to size would be really awkward...
DeMille I think has a chance, as Tomato Adventures is popular in Japan and I remember reading somewhere that he was requested for Brawl.
EDIT: NINJA'D BY THREE PEOPLE, OH MY GOD I HATE THIS FORUM.
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Post by DGN on Aug 11, 2011 15:53:27 GMT -5
Like I said before, Ridley is too big imo. I know he has more priority over Higgs and is more important to the series as a whole, but I think he is too big to be considered. I know characters have been resized before (Olimar is an example), but Ridley is different in that we know Ridley is huge compared to the rest of the smash roster (look at SSE), and shrinking him down to size would be really awkward... Anthony would be good as a third rep. Ridley before him, as they could easily make him the size of bowser, as he was only a little bit bigger than Samus in Super Metroid. Saki was requested as well. Only difference is he's popular in both America AND japan. By gamers and non-gamers due to brawl.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Aug 11, 2011 16:05:48 GMT -5
Toon Zelda wouldn't be a clone (thats what I'm assuming you mean as a "lighter version"), as she has different things available to her that the current Zelda in smash doesn't have. Only thing she'd copy would be transforming. Course I can't say that Sakurai wouldn't make her a clone... You're talking the man that made Ganondorf a clone of Captain Falcon and made Toon Link a clone when he has more to offer. You can see how he views Zelda characters.Like I said before, Ridley is too big imo. I know he has more priority over Higgs and is more important to the series as a whole, but I think he is too big to be considered. I know characters have been resized before (Olimar is an example), but Ridley is different in that we know Ridley is huge compared to the rest of the smash roster (look at SSE), and shrinking him down to size would be really awkward... Ridley's size in SSE is actually exaggerated. He was (ironically) too small, so they beefed him up. Meta Ridley and Omega Ridley are that size, but not plain ol' Ridley. (Except Other M, where the clone was injected with some experimental drug.) Regular Ridley has been at most twice the size of Samus, which although is large, is not TOO large. Especially given the fact that Ridley tends to hunch, which brings him down lower. By all means, Ridley WOULD be the largest character of Smash, but who's to say that it won't work? I mean, plenty of fighting games have larger characters that fit in just fine. (I'm talking characters like Sentinel in MvC, not characters like Gold Lightan in TvC.)DeMille I think has a chance, as Tomato Adventures is popular in Japan and I remember reading somewhere that he was requested for Brawl. A lot of characters were requested for Brawl...and a lot of games are popular in Japan...EDIT: NINJA'D BY THREE PEOPLE, OH MY GOD I HATE THIS FORUM. Responses.
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 11, 2011 16:08:53 GMT -5
@golden's statement about demille.
Lets not forget that this was a japanese poll, so obviously Demille was going to be on the list of request.
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Post by StayPuft on Aug 12, 2011 11:59:45 GMT -5
I have changed some things.
First, I added Bowser Jr. and Zoroark to give both Mario and Pokémon six characters, and to even the roster out at 50.
B/W Trainer was changed to the original Pokémon Trainer, as with the new character per series cap is at 6, allowing Zoroark to rep 5th gen.
DeMille was cut and replaced with Ridley, to give Metroid 3 reps.
Diddy Kong is now teamed up with Dixie Kong.
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Post by StayPuft on Aug 15, 2011 9:12:29 GMT -5
Decided to give Mario an alt costume of Dr. Mario, and Dr. Mario will have his own alt colors (kind of like WarioWare and Wario Land Warios in Brawl).
Also reorganized it so they are organized by series.
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Post by dry on Aug 15, 2011 14:54:03 GMT -5
Like I said before, Ridley is too big imo. I know he has more priority over Higgs and is more important to the series as a whole, but I think he is too big to be considered. I know characters have been resized before (Olimar is an example), but Ridley is different in that we know Ridley is huge compared to the rest of the smash roster (look at SSE), and shrinking him down to size would be really awkward... In the original Metroid, Ridley was barely Samus' height. Ridley's size is seriously inconsistent, so Ridley can easily fit in if one of his smaller sizes was chosen. The SSE Ridley was actually made larger, to make him seem more intimidating, especially as the other bosses were all huge as well.
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Post by StayPuft on Aug 15, 2011 15:18:24 GMT -5
...which is why Ridley is on my roster now? lol
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