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Post by gigapichu on Feb 20, 2011 18:05:10 GMT -5
Who did the voices for old Knuckles anyway?
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Post by DGN on Feb 20, 2011 19:58:11 GMT -5
There WAS supposed to be one clip that was from Shadow, I believe...
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Post by Zeldasmash on Mar 16, 2011 14:41:56 GMT -5
Knuckles is BEAST! Knux has awesome edgeguarding moves and the Dspecial is awesome at mindgames (it confuses those who recover). Excellent KO power and an awesome air game and recovery. I main him after Link, Goku, Krystal and Mach Rider.
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Post by dry on Apr 24, 2011 7:25:05 GMT -5
Knuckles d-special is lethal as a long-range move on anyone without a reflector. It's far too big to be dodge easily, and no one wants to take the hit, which is 24% damage. He's also got great recovery, air game and powerful tilts.
Also, no one's mentioned Knuckle Pawnch yet (standard special). To me, it feels like a shorter-ranged, more powerful version of the Donkey Pawnch.
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Post by El Maiz on Apr 24, 2011 9:07:33 GMT -5
That exactly what it is. It also is part of what makes Knuckles so GOOD at punishing mistakes. Best recovery in the game.
I think we'll get along fine.
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Post by PartisanDaw on Apr 25, 2011 3:10:56 GMT -5
Recovery is a awesome part of Knux whit his Nspecial and areals.
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Post by dry on Apr 25, 2011 3:55:07 GMT -5
His recovery has just one issue: it puts you in a glide. That's a bad thing when you're recovering, because either you cancel it, going helpless and being punished, or you use a glide attack, get perfect shielded and get punished.
I think Metaknight's recovery (5 jumps + drill rush) is much harder to edgeguard, and he can also recover from pretty much anywhere on the stage. He can also recover from directly UNDER a stage (such as Good Egg Galaxy), whereas Knuckles sometimes can't.
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Post by ensane on Apr 25, 2011 6:18:58 GMT -5
Yeah, and if they try to intercept drill rush, you can always cape past them. Loving all this discussion
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Post by PartisanDaw on Apr 25, 2011 6:21:53 GMT -5
Just because Knux get in the glide state,don't mean he's helpless,he can attack if not cancelled.
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Post by El Maiz on Apr 25, 2011 7:18:49 GMT -5
Knuckles can glide without using his uspecial, letting him get out from under the stage to turn around and uspecial. Gliding is really messed up in Crusade. There's no momentum system.
Also, perfect shielding won't be in the next demo, IIRC.
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Post by dry on Apr 25, 2011 8:54:36 GMT -5
No perfect shielding, huh... In Brawl, I feared that they would take away perfect shielding, cause it was the only way for some characters to beat Metaknight. But he no longer has transcendent priority, so I guess that don't matter anymore.
Well, without an easy way to beat the glide attack, I guess knux and metaknight do have the best recovery in the game. Until new characters come. Like Pit and R.O.B. Maybe Rayquaza, if he's gonna be in the game (bit of wishful thinking, but the roster hasn't been confirmed yet)
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Post by falcon8r on Apr 25, 2011 10:16:32 GMT -5
I think Knux's glide attack will be really safe compared to now if there's no perfect shielding... However, the shield stun overall will be reduced as well.
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Post by Chaotic Chao on Jul 7, 2011 7:36:50 GMT -5
Knuckles is my main man! Does Knuckles's glide attack hit at startup? It seems that I have to wait one second before the glide actually hits anything...
In fact, I think the same goes for his up special (maybe).
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Post by dry on Jul 8, 2011 4:08:00 GMT -5
I think his glide attack just has long startup lag. But it's powerful and unpunishable if spaced well, just like Meta Knight's.
Why is he low on the tier list? I don't get it, he's a pretty incredible character.
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Post by El Maiz on Jul 8, 2011 8:40:18 GMT -5
Because the "tier list" is made by one person.
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Post by Chaotic Chao on Jul 8, 2011 12:36:17 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure you need tournaments or at least online play for tier lists. Also, you need to see every character. Maybe the tier list should be made when online mode is made.
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Post by DGN on Jul 8, 2011 14:46:45 GMT -5
At the moment, what they call a "tier list" is really a rankings list.
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Post by Zeldasmash on Jul 8, 2011 14:53:57 GMT -5
Because the "tier list" is made by one person. And this one person actually mains him. Knux definitely has potential. His Spin Dash combos deal a great deal of damage (i did a combo where it reached 55% ending with the U-Special and Glide Attack). His rock Dspecial is very good for mindgames and it sets up his kill moves.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Jul 8, 2011 15:13:36 GMT -5
Maybe Rayquaza, if he's gonna be in the game (bit of wishful thinking, but the roster hasn't been confirmed yet) Will never happen.
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Post by falcon8r on Jul 9, 2011 10:58:23 GMT -5
Not many changes to Knux have been made for the new version, just some very minor adjustments, so you'll be able to do all the same stuff from 0.6.
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