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Post by perfecthell4 on Apr 2, 2011 17:24:11 GMT -5
Felipe, if you were the only one with an interest in competitive Crusade, or the only one who thought it had potential to be competitive, this thread wouldn't exist, and neither would the BR
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Apr 2, 2011 17:26:11 GMT -5
Yeah, but some user are frustated about Crusade being competitive. In my opinion Crusade 0.6 is pretty competitive.
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Post by Dettadeus on Apr 2, 2011 17:26:58 GMT -5
Ending this discussion:
No, it was Lion. I never bothered trying CC, since I knew it was going to be removed and would therefore be a waste of time.
ANYWAYS. BACK ON TOPIC NAO.
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Post by El Maiz on Apr 2, 2011 17:28:45 GMT -5
Just because people aren't deemed "Competitive" enough doesn't mean that they can't help with a tier list.
I'm not particularly competitive, but no one else mains Toad OR Megaman.
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Post by perfecthell4 on Apr 2, 2011 17:29:37 GMT -5
Well, now that the BR is made, we're just waiting for the applications to be posted, after that this thread becomes useless. So I guess the only thing left is any remaining questions/ concerns/ suggestions about it
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Apr 2, 2011 17:30:29 GMT -5
LOL, if you are not competitive you CANT help on the tier list. Is like trying to hack brawl without knowing ASM
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Post by DGN on Apr 2, 2011 17:32:11 GMT -5
don't feed the troll
I'll feed him poison
If they go to tournaments, they can help
If they try to show how they've fought against other people, they can help
HECK, if you're trying to make a rankings list, which as of now is the ONLY thing possible with Crusade, you can or cannot be competitive with the CPU.
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Post by El Maiz on Apr 2, 2011 17:32:59 GMT -5
Except that I probably know more about how Toad or Megaman plays than anyone here except Falcon.
How would other people place those two?
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Apr 2, 2011 17:34:42 GMT -5
man, you know how they play against the CPU, but not agains human. A cpu tier list simple doesnt make sense. i have played crusade with some friend on my pc (with controls) and i have data of how some characters plays anothers
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Post by DGN on Apr 2, 2011 17:35:38 GMT -5
a cpu tier list is a character rankings list.
ANYWAYS, ON TOPIC NAO
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Post by perfecthell4 on Apr 2, 2011 17:36:22 GMT -5
Didn't have to say it like that felipe......
But as far as the reasoning goes, for one thing, being able to help on one or 2 characters shouldn't entitle a user to entrance, and therefore being able to discuss in all BR threads. And, well, just maining a certain character doesn't mean you know how they would relate to a tier list. I'm not saying this about you specifically, just generally. As stated earlier in this discussion, tiers are based on characters perform under specific conditions, and also follow the metagame, which may or may not match the style you play those two characters, As for why others wouldn't be allowed to help with specific characters, the main reason is that regardless of mains, a BR member should thoroughly understand each and every character. This goes against your point in two ways. The first is that on your side, knowing the two characters isnt enough to help. More importantly, you need to know all the other characters to know your mains placement, because you need to know how they fare across different match ups. Maybe you already do know that, but just based on your point of maining them, i say that. And the other way is that the Back Room would already have it covered, because again, regardless of mains the BR will know those 2 characters inside and out
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Post by El Maiz on Apr 2, 2011 17:36:43 GMT -5
man, you know how they play against the CPU, but not agains human. A cpu tier list simple doesnt make sense. i have played crusade with some friend on my pc (with controls) and i have data of how some characters plays anothers We can't play against each other. CPUs are the ONLY way to judge balance. /argument |
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Apr 2, 2011 17:39:39 GMT -5
Lol, geo, your arguments was crushed in your eyes by perfect and you still believe cpus are the way to construct a tier list???. One time noob, forever noob.
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Post by DGN on Apr 2, 2011 17:41:29 GMT -5
One time troll that should already be banned, forever troll
FOR THE LAST FREAKIN TIME, ITS A RANKING LIST.
RANKING
LIST
RANKING
LIST
RANKING
LIST
LEARN TO READ FOR GODS SAKE
BACK ON TOPIC.
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Post by El Maiz on Apr 2, 2011 17:41:49 GMT -5
Yeah, just flame because I'm right.
I don't think that it's the best way. At the moment, it's the only way.
If I'm a noob, you're a troll.
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Post by Dettadeus on Apr 2, 2011 17:42:13 GMT -5
...you do realize that I was constructing the only somewhat functional tier list by fighting CPUs, right?
BACK ON TOPIC AGAIN.
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Apr 2, 2011 17:43:39 GMT -5
A cpu based Tier list is not a valid tier list. We can do a CPu Tier List, leeting the cpu fight agains the cpu, but thats is an another hsitory (and it will recolect useless information  ) |
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Post by DGN on Apr 2, 2011 17:44:45 GMT -5
Det called it a tier list.
it was a rankings list.
or rather, as you say it, lsit.
BACK. ON. THE. GODDANG TOPIC.
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Post by perfecthell4 on Apr 2, 2011 17:45:04 GMT -5
I don't think we need to discuss how a tier list is made any further. If you want involvement in that, join the CBR
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Apr 2, 2011 17:46:11 GMT -5
Hahaha trolling my english (third language) dont make you look like a pro. I can be a troll, but a pro one, both of you (not you det, geo) are noob trolls, so your point of view is invalid if we aim for a competitive scene |
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