Phantom7 says Roster is Finalized (NO, HE DID NOT)

[El Maiz]

I think that Strong Bad should be an assist Trophy.

[DGN]

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Representation for Deoxys: Represents the 3rd generation of pokemon, which currently has no reps. Its still pokemon, though, so I give him a 2.
Representaion for Gary: Represents series 1, 2, and 3, plus, characters commonly liked. 3
Gary wins round 1.

Popularity for Deoxys: 4: Commonly considered an epic pokemon, liked by a lot of people, even speculated for being in Brawl, and possibly being the real Deoxys. Plus, he had his own movie.
Popularity for Gary: 2: OK, so Gary is kind of popular, but his pokemon? Sure, Gengar and Scizor are commonly liked, but Aggron is pretty low in competition terms. Also, if you consider it a smash bros game, these two were NEVER speculated. Plus, they don't have movies specific to them.
Deoxys wins round 2.

Moveset Potential for Deoxys: 5: Being a Psychic type, of course he can use Psychic moves, and TMs as well, but he can also transform his arms into fists, for of course normal fighting, tentacles, for wrapping, whipping, and other things, and of course transform into other types depending on stats. The speed type for fast attacks with little damage, a shield form for mainly defense and staying stable, or an attack form for unleashing hard moves.
Moveset Potential for Gary: Gengar can of course know all those ghosts moves, Aggron with heaving around heavy stuff and rock, steel, and ground, and Scizor for Steel, bug, and slicing moves. 5
Tie for Round 3

Uniqueness for Deoxys: 5: k, so he's a Psychic type, like Mewtwo, but what does that matter? His Psychic moves are very different from Mewtwo, seeing as Mewtwo's is Dark, and Deoxys is more "Light", but being able to transform into those many types, and learning different moves from them surely proves to be unique.
Uniqueness for Gary: He's a Pkmn trainer, which we already have, but talking about his pokemon, Gengar is...a human-like thing, but can possesses ghost type moves, which is pretty much not shown yet, Aggron is a dinosaur, but that's not really very unique. Scizor is a freaking slicer but, which allows for slicing moves. Overall, I think that's 4.5.
Deoxys wins round 4.
Overall for Deoxys: 16
Overall for Gary: 14.5
Gary's obviously better for DLC
And also, if you consider this:
Spriting ease for Deoxys: 5: We already have a full, packed sprite sheet for him set for smash. Set
Spriting Ease for Gary: 2: Not to mention that he has 3 characters and a trainer, but you'd have to animate Gary, which could take a while, do a almost-full sheet for Gengar, a almost-full sheet for Aggron, and almost-full sheet for Scizor.
So that'd have 18/25 for Deoxys and 16.5 for Rival Trainer
Anybody else want to add?

[falcon8r]

Mar 29, 2011 17:57:05 GMT -5 DGN said:

Aggron is a dinosaur, but that's not really very unique.

Play Pokemon before you say this. Aggron has lots of abilities.
B: Magnitude - Hold and release B to cause a slow, but long-ranged quake that hits enemies on the ground near Aggron. The longer B is held, the more damage and range it has.
Side B: Stealth Rock - A slow move to start up, this move creates four stones that hover around Aggron for a short time. Like Leaf Shield, the rocks can destroy projectiles, but they may also hit other players for slight damage. Aggron can launch all the rocks at once by pressing Side B again.
Up B: Heavy Slam - Aggron leaps upwards and then proceeds to plummet downwards, smashing enemies on the way down. The downwards part may be canceled by pressing B at the apex of the jump. It may be used in the air to aid in recovery.
Final Smash: Not sure yet. Maybe a team attack with the other Pokemon on the team.

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I don't like how there's three fully evolved Pokemon. Not only that, but since when did the Rival from R/B have an Aggron, Gengar, or Scizor?
To be fair, there needs to be at least one smaller, unevolved Pokemon. PT has 2, so RT should have 1.

Honestly, I would replace RT with Meowth, who had been waiting to be playable since Smash 64, Protoman with Zero, Dark Samus with Anthony or Sylux, Frank West with the Ice Climbers, and Morrigan (who I have no problem with, but younger people might due to her status as a sex icon) with Agumon/Greymon.

[falcon8r]

Mar 29, 2011 19:33:34 GMT -5 GoldenYuiitusin said:

PT has 2, so RT should have 1.

By that logic, all characters should have exactly one projectile attack. I think it's good that some characters are different.

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Mar 29, 2011 19:35:24 GMT -5 falcon8r said:

Mar 29, 2011 19:33:34 GMT -5 GoldenYuiitusin said:

PT has 2, so RT should have 1.

By that logic, all characters should have exactly one projectile attack. I think it's good that some characters are different.

I didn't say that they would be the same. I said that because PT has 2 weaker, unevolved Pokemon and 1 fully evolved Pokemon, RT should have the opposite, rather than 3 strong, fully evolved Pokemon. That's too OP.
You are not making sense at my logic.

[El Maiz]

Mar 29, 2011 19:33:34 GMT -5 GoldenYuiitusin said:

Honestly, I would replace RT with Meowth, who had been waiting to be playable since Smash 64, Protoman with Zero, Dark Samus with Anthony or Sylux, Aero (who I don't even know) with Ice Climbers, and Morrigan (who I have no problem with, but younger people might due to her status as a sex icon) with Agumon/Greymon.

This. This so very much.

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Actually, I edited it. After reading on Aero the Acro-Bat, I don't actually mind him. It gives a new company that worked with Nintendo a chance to have a character.
I switched him with Frank West, who I could never picture in a Smash Bros. style.

[El Maiz]

What can he do other than throw stars and a drill thing?

Sounds like a Assist Trophy to me.

[DGN]

I honestly think it should be Morrigan with Arthur, but that's just me.
And I don't know whether Deoxys, Zoroark, or Meowth is better.
I'd replace EWJim with Meowth and RT with Deox, but you know, too many pokemon reps.

[phantomhp]

I'm disappointed in protoman over zero. Zero is my all time favorite character and he's much more likable character. It isn't my game though so I have no say in the matters though. I am happy with rival trainer though and would like to say my brother's favorite pokemon is aggron so he's happy too. can't say much else, but it's cool that you have it all set then.

[El Maiz]

I'd say Meowth is better than both of the others. Combined.

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Mar 29, 2011 19:48:05 GMT -5 El Maiz said:

What can he do other than throw stars and a drill thing?

Sounds like a Assist Trophy to me.

What could Ristar do other than grab things with stretchy arms and tackle into enemies?

And what I'm saying, Falcon, is replace Gengar with Haunter at least. Gives more of a unique character that can use *most* of what Gengar uses. And possibly more, due to his detached ghost hands.

[phantomhp]

also DMX, I wouldn't mind helping you out in the future. I'm willing to help animate things that need them, like the pokemon.

[El Maiz]

I suppose.

I really know nothing about Aero.I just looked it up and I don't know what you can do with just those things.

[phantomhp]

I've actually never even heard of him but I'm kind of out of the groove at times

[DGN]

It was a character they've played during childhood, so I honestly don't mind them anymoar.
@golden: YES. He'd also be easier to sprite, and probably fun to as well.
Changing Aggron to Lairon is...kind of unfitting for him, IMO.
And Scyther, despite being cool, I don't think fits as much as Scizor.

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I believe Aggron and Scizor were chosen to specifically represent the 2nd and 3rd Generation...

[DGN]

Oh yeah, forgot Scyther wasn't 2nd generation.
I imagine playing as Aron would be cool, but no one would want him. EX

[Werekill]

Wait, you replaced Zero with Protoman? We need to talk asap.