How much do our users agree with the roster?

[PhantomVII]

Poll is now closed.

This poll is a list of random characters who have never appeared in a Smash Bros. game before, some who are in the current character roster and some who are not. I was curious about how much the community agrees with the character roster so far, and I think this is the best way to find out without actually revealing the roster. This will be used for game statistics and will be compared to the results of similar polls used in the future.

Results

I counted the top 10 number of votes for characters not on the roster and on the roster.

How much do our users agree with the current roster? The answer is... 39.8%!

Number of counted votes: 284

Number of votes for characters on roster: 113

Number of votes for characters not on roster: 171

Difference: 58

Percentage of votes for characters on roster: 39.8%

Percentage of votes for characters not on roster: 60.2%

Top 5 Votes

1. Zero / Zoroark -- 17
2. King K. Rool / Deoxys -- 16
3. Isaac / Ballon Fighter / Ancient Minister -- 15
4. Shadow the Hedgehog -- 14
5. Samurai Goroh -- 12

5 Least Number of Votes

1. Dr. Stewart -- 2
2. Ghirahim / Sir Kibble / Mother Brain -- 3
3. Koopa Troopa / King Boo / Bass / Ratchet and Clank -- 5
4. Kamek -- 6
5. Baby Mario and Luigi / Dixie Kong -- 7

[El Maiz]

That's a great idea!

Wait, which Pokémon does Rival Trainer have?

[PhantomVII]

Jun 16, 2011 21:02:17 GMT -5 El Maiz said:

That's a great idea!

Wait, which Pokémon does Rival Trainer have?

I guess I really should specify that, shouldn't I? Silly me.

[member 777]

are you phantom or dr.mariox using phantom account

also why you no add ninten to poll or porkey

[DGN]

I tried to be as unbiased as possible when polling.
I'll post why I think those things later.

[SmashKing201]

before I vote, can I retract my votes?

[member 777]

yes you can

[El Maiz]

Well, look who has the most votes.

[SmashKing201]

no meowth?

by the way, I never knew that the polls can expand by this much before

[Dettadeus]

Jun 16, 2011 21:37:19 GMT -5 El Maiz said:

Well, look who has the most votes.

Well, Balloon Fighter is tied with him now, but yes, the Minister did have the most.

[DGN]

Meh, maybe now.
Paper mario represents a fantastic RPG series and would be insanely fun to play as, being paper.
K. rool, although I'd perfer Dixie, is more important as he's a villain, a heavyweight, an alligator, more unique, etc.
Vaati is another villain, with wonderful purple magic and further represents Toon Link's series.
I honestly don't know anything about Ghanihim, aside from being the villain of Skyward Sword, so I can't judge him.
Zoroark represents the newest pokemon game, one that was received very, very well, and is unique, transforming into other pokemon.
Deoxys represents another highly approved pokemon game, and is also very unique, if not more than Zoroark.
Rival Trainer, on the other hand, represents Kanto, which wasn't received as well as the further games, so he's out.
Dark Samus represents the Prime series, which I believe was also received well, and is insanely kewl with the plasma/whatever.
Prince Fluff is insanely unique. Love him, despite not playing epic yarn. And his game was received well as well.
Goroh is more important than Black Shadow, as he's had many appearances in Brawl, is more important to F-Zero as being C.Falcon's rival, and several other reasons I'm too lazy to specify. XD Smashking can do a good job explaining why he should be in.
As for Black Shadow, if he's in, I'd just like to say DON'T MAKE HIM USE IS HORNS LIKE A BULL. That doesn't fit the villain role. XD
Isaac represents an excellent RPG.
Shadow the hedgehog, although I'd perfer a different Sega rep(...NiGHTS...) is pretty cool. I'm starting to reconsider him, but heck, don't really care about him.
Zero represents his own series. And is highly reviewed I think. And is awesome. I'd perfer, Bass, but he's better.
Black Mage is more unqiue than Cloud. And we don't really need another sword user.
WHY DO YOU THINK SIMON WOULD BE A BAD CHOICE.
SIMON NEEDS TO BE IN.
OR ELSE.
Or if he's replaced by a different Castlevania character, that's fine~
BUT ONLY A DIFFERENT CASTLEVANIA CHAR
Balloon fighter, IMO, is the best classic char we can get. Huge impact on gaming, very popular, viability is great, only problem is uniqueness, but that's not bad.
Minister. What do I have to say? Represents a lovely game. Everyone who's played smash knows him. Uniquenes is meh, but viability is a bit better.
And that's it.
I might look over the others.

[GoldenYuiitusin]

DMX that the idea for Rival Trainer was going to be Gengar/Heracross/Rhydon.
If it's still Scizor and Aggron, there's a problem.

[Dettadeus]

Might as well go ahead and say what I did too.
1. Zoroark. Well, I suggested her in the first place, of course I'm voting for her.
2. Deoxys. Not sure how likely it is at this point, but I do admit it would be pretty fun kicking butts with the only fully-alien Pokemon known (yet).
3. Cloud Strife. Probably just the bias talking. I'm a huge fan of the Compilation, and FFVII is literally one of the best video games out there. It's no surprise Square Enix made it into an entire cash cow series. 4 games, a movie, an animated short, action figures and other merch, cameos in other games, and a remake of the original likely on the way? That seems pretty big, by Square Enix's standards.
4. (Duh) The Ancient Minister. I think I've said everything I could say about him, and we all know that a lot of people want him in. It just pains me to see that you won't pay attention when I keep giving you evidence contrary to your reasons for rejecting him. If he doesn't end up on the roster (which won't surprise me at this point), and there does end up being some form of DLC, we all know the Minister is going to be first.

[sumika]

Jun 17, 2011 0:50:00 GMT -5 Dettadeus said:

3. Cloud Strife. Probably just the bias talking. I'm a huge fan of the Compilation, and FFVII is literally one of the best video games out there. It's no surprise Square Enix made it into an entire cash cow series. 4 games, a movie, an animated short, action figures and other merch, cameos in other games, and a remake of the original likely on the way? That seems pretty big, by Square Enix's standards.

You are correct. And the fact he's not on any Nintendo game gives him a big N.O. from me.

[PartisanDaw]

Paper Mario HAVE TO BE IN!
Minister is awesome and Zero is WAAAAAAAAY better than Bass.
You may kill me now,but i voted for Rival Trainer and Sub-Zero.

[corey95]

No 1 is going to kill you, ProDaw, so do it yourself.
(It's a joke).

[SmashKing201]

Come on duck hunt dog!!!!

This is like a race. Lol

[DGN]

But everybody is going to kill you if your posts continue to pointless and off-topic, corey. (It's a joke)

Anyways, I'll think I'll state the reasons why I don't support the others.
Kamek: He's a wizard, and the main antagonist of the Yoshi series, but in Mario he's just a generic enemy.

Koopa Troopa's another generic enemy. Generic is bad when putting characters in the game. Wait...I just insulted myself. XD

King Boo has little viability, similar to Haunter. And being a ghost, it'd be hard to give him knockback, or even punch him correctly as it'd go through him.

Baby Mario and Baby Luigi would also represent the Yoshi series, but honestly, aside from the racing games/sports games, you never see them together. only on top of Yoshi. And at that, what would they do? It just seems like Mario's moveset and Luigi's moveset combined.

Dixie Kong would represent the Country series more than K.Rool, I think, and give a higher sense of nostalgia due to actually playing as her, and can do a lot of stuff specific to her, having the same physique as Diddy is quite her downfall. She's a good rep, I think, but K.Rool is better IMO.

Toon Zelda. I can picture her with a different moveset from Zelda, as done with Toon Link, but some neutrals would be very close to Zelda's, if not the same, as with Toon Link. She's not good enough.

Ghirahim. Uhm. Well. His body phisique doesn't seem that close to smash, IMO. For moves, he can throw pink spikes, draw a sword(yawn) and even take link's sword. Wait, what? That's not possible to code in this game. And attack with two fingers. But so far, we don't have much to work with...Only neutrals and a special. As for popularity, he's clearly not too popular as he was literally just announced, and his game isn't even out yet so representation can't be judged.

Rival Trainer. Well, Gary Oak doesn't fit. He doesn't belong in a smash game. Almost all the pokemon he's used would fit horribly, and some of the ones that do you'd have to do research to know he's used them. as for these pokemon, Gengar, although he has used him, isn't too well known to be owned by Gary(only Pokemon Stadium 2, one critically disapproved) and represents generation 1. TOO MUCH GENERATION 1 REPS. Especially when the further games received better grades. As for Scizor, I have no problem with him except that it was only used by Gary Oak in the anime and at that only once. Now, you've said that anime doesn't count when grading characters, so Blue has never used him, but **** has. As for Aggron, there are so many reasons to cut him. He's too heavy to even jump. Viability is taken care of. He's never even used an Aggron, and despite the ability to use rocks and steel, most of his neutrals would be very similar to someone like Ridley or Bowser. He's also not very popular in pokemon, I don't think, due to being very slow and having medium attack. So Blue is out. Smell ya later.

Mother Brain? WHO VOTED FOR MOTHER BRAIN. Mother Brain is ridiculous. Mother Brain can't move. She can only shoot projectiles, not attack physically. HOW WOULD SHE JUMP OR RUN. I can understand if she was the humanoid form in Super Metroid, but that'd be a final smash at the least.

Knuckle Joe has gained popularity only due to being a brawl assist trophy. That's all. If it weren't for smash, he'd just be considered a random enemy.

Sir Kibble is even worse. Same reasons as KJoe, though.

All Black Shadow has going for him is popularity and being a villain. Other than that, I personally think Goroh would fit better, and it's blatant that he's more important in smash.

Dr. Stewart gives nothing. Goroh>BS>Stewart.

Metal Sonic represents Sonic CD. Although he was and is quite popular among Sonic fans, and even had a movie about him(which I still love, have, and watch to this day :3). However, though his representation was decent, the Sega CD was received at mediocre, and one of the only good games on the system. He does have uniqueness, but IMO, there are better choices. Although Sonic Adventure 2 was received decently, many fans loved the game, so Shadow's the better choice.

Bass. Well. Um. Zero's better. I perfer Bass, but I've really only played MegaMan II, so I can't really judge anything Megaman wise.

I don't support Sub-Zero. I recognize his games were pretty good, reception wize, but Nintendo didn't support the blood and gore it had to offer. Not to mention I don't really think Sub would fit in well, due to the sprites(just being pictures of a human). He's a good choice, I acknowledge that, but there are better choices.

Ratchet and Clank aren't from a Nintendo console. I'd like them in, but they don't deserve a spot.

Although his game was received well, his game, FFVII, was never on a Nintendo console, which is his downfall. He was on a Nintendo console once(in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories), but it wasn't his main series, which is where his downfall is.

DHD has high representation and Popularity, but meh uniqueness and low viability, due to being an 8-bit dog. He has stuff to work with, but there are better retro reps IMO.

Master Cheif has never been on a nintendo console.


Wait, why isn't Nightmare on this list? I think he deserves one. His games were received excellently, especially the one in the gamecube, is very popular, somewhat due to having guest stars in their games, such as link, is very unique, and has a ton to work with.
Same with Phoenix Wright.
IMO, they should've been on instead of Koopa and Kibble.

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Jun 17, 2011 8:23:17 GMT -5 DGN said:

Baby Mario and Baby Luigi would also represent the Yoshi series, but honestly, aside from the racing games/sports games, you never see them together. only on top of Yoshi. And at that, what would they do? It just seems like Mario's moveset and Luigi's moveset combined.

Knuckle Joe has gained popularity only due to being a brawl assist trophy. That's all. If it weren't for smash, he'd just be considered a random enemy.

Metal Sonic represents Sonic CD. Although he was and is quite popular among Sonic fans, and even had a movie about him(which I still love, have, and watch to this day :3). However, though his representation was decent, the Sega CD was received at mediocre, and one of the only good games on the system. He does have uniqueness, but IMO, there are better choices. Although Sonic Adventure 2 was received decently, many fans loved the game, so Shadow's the better choice.

Wait, why isn't Nightmare on this list? I think he deserves one. His games were received excellently, especially the one in the gamecube, is very popular, somewhat due to having guest stars in their games, such as link, is very unique, and has a ton to work with.

The Baby Bros. also have Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, where they teamed up with present day Mario and Luigi.
That being said, they have moves from that, as well as having tag-team moves that Mario and Luigi CAN'T use due to being seperate characters.

Knuckle Joe is a single character in the Kirby anime, so he's recogniseable and popular. Pretty much, Knuckle Joe is like Meowth in that sense. Also, Knuckle Joe has gained some popularity because of Super Star Ultra's Helper to Hero game. The opening cinematic is about Knuckle Joe, and it is considered to be "his" game despite the other characters available.
However, Bandana Dee FTW.

Who's to say we can't have both Shadow AND Metal Sonic? Metal Sonic doesn't just represent CD. That's like saying Shadow only represents Sonic Adventure 2. Metal was the main (surprise) antagonist in Sonic Heroes, played an antagonistic role in Sonic Rivals, played a sidekick role (mostly controlled by Eggman) in Sonic Rivals 2, was a secret bonus character in Sonic Adventure DX, etc. Metal is Sonic's first rival as well. I'd say Metal should be in over Eggman due to Eggman's use of the Eggmobile.

Nightmare has only been on ONE Nintendo system with ONE game. I don't care how awesome it is or how well received it is, he is not deserving in my book. Neither is Morrigan, and that's because her series were not on a Nintendo system AT ALL.

[-Dr.MarioX-]

I hope no one is voting more than once for a character. I'm getting suspicious about that.