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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Jul 10, 2011 18:57:30 GMT -5
You're complaining that Rosalina made the cut and Petey didn't and you want Petey in the game.
Petey (in the old demo) was an awkward character because he was so big.
We thought we'd re-invent him a little in the new engine. I was looking at his old sprites (now unusable with new standards) and too thought he was too big. His moveset, regardless of what he did, was weird and with villains like Bowser, Ridley, and Ganondorf, Petey was too out of place to stay on the roster.
After hearing of the mass critical success of Galaxy 2, I considered possibilities of Rosalina for SSBC. The other devs (Phantom and Falcon) agreed and she was added to the roster over Petey in almost no time. Rosalina fits in well with the current roster and well with other female characters like Peach, Zelda, Krystal, and Samus.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Jul 10, 2011 19:01:16 GMT -5
We thought we'd re-invent him a little in the new engine. I was looking at his old sprites (now unusable with new standards) and too thought he was too big. His moveset, regardless of what he did, was weird and with villains like Bowser, Ridley, and Ganondorf, Petey was too out of place to stay on the roster. After hearing of the mass critical success of Galaxy 2, I considered possibilities of Rosalina for SSBC. The other devs (Phantom and Falcon) agreed and she was added to the roster over Petey in almost no time. Rosalina fits in well with the current roster and well with other female characters like Peach, Zelda, Krystal, and Samus. This, I actually agree with. Unlike Ridley, Petey cannot be successfully worked through as a playable character. Hell, even in Mario Kart Double Dash, his size made things awkward. However, I find Rosalina too minor and lacking, and feel King Boo is a better choice. Though at the same time, like Bowser Jr., she's shaping up to be a big recurring character, so all in all, I don't mind her. |
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Post by DGN on Jul 10, 2011 19:06:39 GMT -5
You're complaining that Rosalina made the cut and Petey didn't and you want Petey in the game. I'm saying that I realized some points that would make Petey better than Rosalina.  He's just a little bit bigger than Megaman in this pic. That makes him UNIQUE. Like Waluigi. His moveset is rather peculiar IMO. Especially up special. That's what makes him FUN. Yes, she fits well, because she's somewhat similar to Zelda, with a similar face to peach. |
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Post by Slissith on Jul 10, 2011 23:30:18 GMT -5
Guys, seriously, with a such a huge roster, we need the most original characters we can get. There was nothing really note worthy about Rosalina whereas petey has to offer new things to the table.
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Post by PartisanDaw on Jul 11, 2011 6:08:34 GMT -5
DGN: That isn't a in-game picture.It's only a bunch of sprites copy-pasted over Hyurle Field.
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Post by Slissith on Jul 11, 2011 6:20:02 GMT -5
So? He isn't that big! Compare him to Krystal and Knuckles who are in the game already...
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Jul 11, 2011 8:52:20 GMT -5
Rosalina is nothing like Zelda, or even Peach. Do I need to post her special moves?
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Post by Werekill on Jul 11, 2011 9:05:52 GMT -5
As one of the earliest testers, I can safely say that he was way too big.
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Post by Slissith on Jul 11, 2011 9:06:30 GMT -5
Go ahead doc, and I'll post Petey's likely specials.
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Post by DGN on Jul 11, 2011 9:08:27 GMT -5
How are they similar? Let us count the ways.
First off, appearance. Due to having a cartoony style face, Rosalina somewhat resembles Peach. Added to this, they both have blonde hair, similarly styled dresses, and crowns.
Second, abilities. Rosalina has the ability to float? Peach has that ability as well, in the first jump. Rosalina also controls magic, of which Zelda does as well. Now, I do realize they use it different, as was the case with the two characters and NiGHTS. However, I don't think what's necessary is to post the special moves, as they would be taken from the many different things you could do in the two Galaxy games; what I do think is necessary is to post the neutral moves. Meaning smashes, tilts, aerials, throws, etc.
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Post by sumika on Jul 11, 2011 9:12:50 GMT -5
Rosalina uses magic? I thought she used Outter Space Based attacks. Not Magic.. I dont think Rosalina is going to get Peach's Floating ability, it'd be a waste, and I'm pretty sure they'd change all the tilts and crap. Because if they didnt, she'd probably be done by now. :l
And... That petey is not to size. He was 3x Mario's height in Sunshine.
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Post by DGN on Jul 11, 2011 9:14:22 GMT -5
If they consider NiGHTS flying with sparkles to be considered magic, surely they'd consider Rosalina's moves magic-like. And yes, she wouldn't get that, but overall they both float. And I realize that they'd change it. But I want to see how unique they are.
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Post by SmashKing201 on Jul 11, 2011 9:28:21 GMT -5
To me petey's size or uniqueness is not the biggest issue. I think he is an un-fitting rep for the mario series in smash bros in general. He is just a mini boss and a filler for spin offs. Toad, Bowser Jr, Waluigi, & Rosalina have more priority than him.
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Post by member 777 on Jul 11, 2011 9:56:17 GMT -5
Rosalina uses magic? I thought she used Outter Space Based attacks. Not Magic.. I dont think Rosalina is going to get Peach's Floating ability, it'd be a waste, and I'm pretty sure they'd change all the tilts and crap. Because if they didnt, she'd probably be done by now. :l And... That petey is not to size. He was 3x Mario's height in Sunshine. if everything was to size bowser would be bigger he was 3x mario like he was in super mario n64 ,sunshine and galaxy |
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Jul 11, 2011 10:17:37 GMT -5
By what I'm hearing, you guys would say Mario and Luigi are too similar or Sonic and Shadow are too similar...
Rosalina's attacks are based off cosmos and what-not. Special Moves:
Standard: Star Bits
Rosalina shoots a star bit that comes down from an angle, like in the Galaxy games when Star Bits are shot.
Side: Co-Star Luma
The orange Co-Star Luma that appeared when player 2 entered Super Mario Galaxy 2 will follow Rosalina and in this move, the Co-Star Luma can grab and hold players to give Rosalina a chance to attack.
Up: Launch Star
Using the iconic Launch Star from the Galaxy series, Rosalina's Co-Star Luma forms into a Launch Star and lets Rosalina blast off into the air.
Down: Bubble Shield
If you tried to jump on Rosalina in the Galaxy series, a bubble will instantly form around her, causing you to bounce off. Rosalina will form the bubble around her in this move, making characters bounce off of her bubble when touched. However, it gets smaller as it is being used and gets bigger while it is not being used.
Final Smash: Hungry Luma (and New Galaxy)
Rosalina goes to one side of the stage as a Hungry Luma appears at the other side. Rosalina fires Star Bits across the stage at rapid speed. Each Star Bit will deal damage and brings players over to the Hungry Luma with every hit. When Hungry Luma is full, it "transforms" by turning into a small bright orb and bringing the ones hit into the bg to explode into a new Galaxy.
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Post by DGN on Jul 11, 2011 10:26:08 GMT -5
By what I'm hearing, you guys would say Mario and Luigi are too similar or Sonic and Shadow are too similar... Luigi is too important to the series, whereas Rosalina and Petey have equal importance to the series. As for Shadow, you can make an ENTIRELY different moveset for him. ...And ahem. Neutrals plz |
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Post by El Maiz on Jul 11, 2011 10:57:36 GMT -5
I think you mean "Normals".
Neutrals is when you are standing still.
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Post by Slissith on Jul 11, 2011 12:15:50 GMT -5
Rosalina has appeared in 3 games, being playable in 1 of them.
Petey has appeared in 14 games, being a boss in 6 of them and a playable character in another 6.
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Post by SmashKing201 on Jul 11, 2011 12:34:57 GMT -5
Rosalina has appeared in 3 games, being playable in 1 of them. Petey has appeared in 14 games, being a boss in 6 of them and a playable character in another 6. think you did the math wrong with petey's game appearances. lol how could he have been in 14 games if he was a mini boss in 6 and playable in another 6? What about the other 2 appearances? |
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Post by Slissith on Jul 11, 2011 12:36:32 GMT -5
Non Playable Character...
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