Character Wishlist Poll

[DGN]

By moveset potential, they basically mean how many moves from the game can be used to make a moveset. For example, Banjo-Kazooie have so many moves in their games, you could make a full moveset out of the things they've done. However, all Bottles has done was give advice and dig burrows and die to possess enemies. You can't take all he has done to make a moveset. However, you can still make a moveset, taking that he's a mole. Really, I could make a moveset for a candy cane if needed. A CANDY CANE.

[-Dr.MarioX-]

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Take those pictures off, Golden. Violates rules.

With your Magnus talk, you assume. We don't assume. Hey guess what- MACH RIDER HAD NO SPRITES EITHER. I pulled it off.

I'd like to end all Rival Trainer discussion right now as it is off-topic. He does not have anything to do with the characters on the poll in any way. Back on topic...

[DGN]

Aug 6, 2011 15:45:05 GMT -5 -Dr.MarioX- said:

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You're not staff.

With your Magnus talk, you assume. We don't assume.

You assume he can have a full moveset.
And about Mach Rider. It took you a month, no? And you have until summer of next year?
Good luck with that-getting several characters edited in that amount of time.

I'd like to end all Rival Trainer discussion right now as it is off-topic. He does not have anything to do with the characters on the poll in any way. Back on topic...

We should make a new topic then! Who wants to?

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Aug 6, 2011 14:55:13 GMT -5 dry said:

That last post made me lol. In fact, the whole argument's making me lol. And not in a good way. Sorry to be the Sheldon Cooper of this thread, but you guys are being pathetic =\. Seriously, there are 70-80 characters planned for the final game; chances are every character on this poll will make it.

@goldenyuitsin:
It's cool that you have all the original Pokemon cartridges, but that doesn't mean you're gonna be definitely right. Personally, I think the Rockets don't start off as the obvious bad guys, but by the time you get to the 8th gym, the entire crew recognises you as "that tough kid". However, the champion battle is against your rival, and final bosses are usually seen as "the bad guys". So in a way, both sides of the argument are right about the Pokemon villains. The rival is the main villain, and Giovanni is also the main villain. There are three parties in Pokemon, not just two. It's like the Shadow the Hedgehog games; on one side you have Shadow, on another side you have Sonic, on the last side you have Eggman and that dark dude.
No, they really aren't. Final Bosses aren't always villains. Again, to be a villain, you have to be EVIL. Rival is an antagonist, I'm not arguing that, but he is by NO means, a villain.
And since you decide to use Shadow's game...does Sonic count as a villain because you choose to side with Black Doom? No. He's an ANTAGONIST, but not a villain. If you read my previous argument, you would've seen that this is just another example of how even HEROES can be antagonists.

Also, Pokemon types shouldn't really affect whether they are in or not. We want originality and uniqueness in each and every character, yeah, but just because they have the same typing, doesn't mean they're gonna be too similar to each other. Caterpie and Volcarona are the same type, but how are they similar to each other in anyway? Just like Deoxys and Mewtwo; one uses cosmic power and sci-fi themed moves, the other uses dark magic. IMO they'll be unique and different enough.This wasn't in my argument. If you're going to go to someone else's argument, you need to do the @*insertname* after you're done with the first person you addressed.

When you say moveset potential, are you taking into account the fact that you can just invent your own moves for characters? When someone chose Captain Falcon for the original SSB, he had literally no moves to show, and they still managed to kit him out with a full-out moveset.As I said in another thread, Falcon's moveset was a copy and paste from Smash's prototype "Dragon King: The Fighting Game" because his model fit the characters'. Just replace "Dragon" with "Falcon" and you got Captain Falcon.
It's true that the SSB crew had professional graphics artists and sound designers, which kinda made things easier for them. But still, we can nab a moveset out of the sprites we have. For example, Eggplant Wizard. Standard Special will obviously be the eggplant. Side Special? Have him let off a Shemum, kinda like Bomberman's bomb kick. Up Special? Have him flying up on a Monolith, Specknose or another iconic flying enemy. Down Special? Give him the effects that Pit receives when healing in a hospital, and make it a unique move that can heal. If you guys set your mind to making a moveset, you can do so for almost any character in any game. Ristar didn't have a recovery move from his own game; that's when you had the idea of the Star Crank as a move. Mach Rider had no up or down special either, so you made them up, and now he's a fully-fledged smash bros character. No matter what character you decide to stick into this game, I'm sure you can make a moveset for them. This would be true for most cases, but how do you explain giving a moveset to someone we HAVEN'T SEEN WHAT HE CAN DO? (Referring to the Magnus issue)

tl;dr: lol this argument is jks. rival and giovanni are both villains Like DMX, you don't know what a villain is., think shadow games Faulty argument.. same types =/= unoriginal. make your own moves up if they don't have any. Completely different from what the true argument is for. Giving someone moves when they don't have ANY is bad. Filling out moves for someone when they don't have ENOUGH is fine.

Response is yellow.

@dmx: I will not remove them, as you are not staff.
And especially not until I get an apology for being accused of not playing Red and Blue.

And yeah, you assume Magnus can have a full moveset BEFORE he's even been shown to do ANYTHING. So don't give me any crap about how "I assume and you don't".

And of course you want to stop with Rival Trainer, because you brought him up in an errored way and are regretting your mistake.

[-Dr.MarioX-]

That's why I report things because I'm not staff.

Wait...are you doubting our abilities to finish the game and my abilities to sprite Magnus? Spriting isn't that bad when you get used to it. If you want the game to get finish, come and help.

Every Rival Trainer topic so far has been locked or even deleted. Don't do it, please. We don't want this forum to get messy.

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Ooh. I've been reported because you are butthurt? Weak.

We are not doubting your lolskills with spriting.
We're doubting your thought process on how Magnus could possibly be thought of as a good choice before the game he debuts in is even out.

You were the one that brought up Rival, not me. So it's your OWN fault.

[dry]

Golden, just to clear things up, only the paragraph that started with @goldenyuitsin was aimed at you. The rest was all at other people. kthnxbai

...Also, I understand that the pictures are against the rules, but seriously, who gets offended by that? Those were clearly light-hearted, jokey pictures. I'd bring up porn channels as examples, but that wouldn't be the best idea now...

[-Dr.MarioX-]

I used Rival to prove a point, not to start one of these annoying discussions.

Now you're insulting my spriting skills. You're not doing it. In fact, you're not doing anything positive for the game's development whatsoever. I'd like you to know that. Other people here try to help with sprites. Perhaps you've never seen the spriting threads around here?

We also think Ghirahim from the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword will be a good choice. Phantom's already seeing movesets. Do you have a problem with him because his game hasn't been released yet?

You want to know something, Golden? Swords and stones could break my bones, but words can't do a thing. I think if administrative powers chose to do so, they could hurt pretty badly. Especially if you see what section of the forum rules I posted and what the consequences are.

Now, there have been 27 votes, with Mitsurugi, Frank, and Alucard tied and every else is tied with eachother.

[plasmis]

And I didn't vote because I couldn't care less. lol By the way, I don't know like half the poll list, so yeah no opinion from me...

[DGN]

Aug 6, 2011 16:08:57 GMT -5 -Dr.MarioX- said:

We also think Ghirahim from the Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword will be a good choice. Phantom's already seeing movesets. Do you have a problem with him because his game hasn't been released yet?

Yes.
He probably will end up being good, but as of now, he's not.

Swords and stones could break my bones, but words can't do a thing.

You mean Sticks and Stones. >_>
Besides, he's trying to CONVINCE YOU why YOUR LOGIC IS BAD.

Now, there have been 27 votes, with Mitsurugi, Frank, and Alucard tied and every else is tied with eachother.

Just FYI, I voted for every single person. Someone else did too.
Mainly because I don't care about them and like to screw with people.

[Dettadeus]

Ok. Seriously guys. I'm locking this. In fact, I should've locked this a while ago but I didn't because I didn't think it would escalate like this.
Who gets infractions and for how much? That's for you to find out when it happens.
*locked*

I'll re-open this after having a discussion with those infracted.