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Post by DGN on Aug 4, 2011 16:32:05 GMT -5
Dracula. That's right, Dracula from Castlevania. I'm not particularly requesting him as I'd perfer Simon. But Golden did mention some things to me about him... Basically I'll answer them in Q&A fashion. Q: Dracula isn't originally fourth party! He can't be in! A: Bowser isn't either(Legend of Kappa), but Nintendo's version is. Same can be said for Pit(Kid Icarus), Palutena, and Medusa. Q: Simon/Richter/Alucard FTW! A: First, Alucard. He'd be another sword user, and although he can do some cool moves (such as turn into a bat and werewolf) and perform magic, and is an antihero, he's not as well known as Simon or Richter, I don't think. Now Simon. His games were great, just like Alucard's. He also has a whip, which would be cool as well. However, he doesn't have as much to use as other characters. And he's also known as being quite popular as one of the main characters of Castlevania. Now Richter. His game was good too. He's another whip user, but has more to work with. Now, which one of these represents the best game... Oh wait. Dracula's in them all. That's useful. Q: But what makes him special? A: Being the main character, and the main villain of a series. Plus, transforming into demons, Dark Power, Bats, fireballs(check the game. No one shoots fireballs in it yet, save for Bowser Jr. and Zelda, albeit Zelda uses it in a different way). He'd turn out to be a much more unique character than you'd think. Q: But won't one of the protagonists be more easily recognized? A: Not exactly. Dracula has been in more games in general, and his villainy is shown throughout the whole game(unlike Sonic Heroes, where you learn at the end that Metal Sonic is the main antagonist). Added to that, Dracula himself as a fourth party char would be recognized more than a video game char. Q: He'd be overpowered! A: If they could make Meta Knight overpowered, they could clearly make Dracula underpowered. Q: But the protagonists have more to work with! A: Well, maybe Richter and Alucard, especially close-ranged. However, due to being in all the games, Dracula has more to work with. And quite a few of his moves from Castlevania Judgement could be used as well-maybe even to the point that he acts like a heavyweight character, of which we need more of. Well, that's reallly all I have to say. Any questions, ask me.
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Post by Yeti Dk on Aug 4, 2011 16:44:08 GMT -5
Id like Dracula in but Simon would be Best
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Aug 4, 2011 20:54:18 GMT -5
Simon would come before any other Castlevania character (and almost any Konami character except Snake and Bomberman).
Alucard, not only has the same abilities as Dracula (most of them, at least), but also has had many of his own games. These games were well received and would make Alucard our 2nd Castlevania choice.
Dracula would be cool, but he really wouldn't fit in with the other fighters too well. It's hard to explain and I wish I could explain it better. :\
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Post by sumika on Aug 5, 2011 0:25:07 GMT -5
Lol... And all of Richters games were poorly received? He IS the most popular Belmont next to Simon for a reason. And he has a perfect moveset for a Smash game. I dont see how nobody can understand that but me.
And Alucard has only had 2 Castlevania games where he plays plot points to the main story. DoS and AoS dont count. He's a side character. Richter has been in SotN, Rondo of Blood, Dracula X, and Portrait of Ruin.
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Post by DGN on Aug 5, 2011 8:17:25 GMT -5
Now Richter. His game was good too. He's another whip user, but has more to work with.[/i] [/quote] And he has a perfect moveset for a Smash game. I dont see how nobody can understand that but me. And of those, he'd only really represent Rondo of Blood/Dracula X, because SoTN was pretty much Alucard's game and he only had a cameo in Portrait of Ruin, aside from being able to play as him after the game ended. I personally think either Simon, Richter , or Dracula to be in. Because Simon is more well known, but Simon's Quest received mixed reviews so that's a downfall, or Richter because of Dracula X, that had good reviews and meh reviews (from around 75-90).
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 5, 2011 8:57:51 GMT -5
I pick Simon since he is the most well known out of any of them.
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Aug 5, 2011 9:56:24 GMT -5
Now Richter. His game was good too. He's another whip user, but has more to work with.[/i] [/quote] And he has a perfect moveset for a Smash game. I dont see how nobody can understand that but me. And of those, he'd only really represent Rondo of Blood/Dracula X, because SoTN was pretty much Alucard's game and he only had a cameo in Portrait of Ruin, aside from being able to play as him after the game ended. I personally think either Simon, Richter , or Dracula to be in. Because Simon is more well known, but Simon's Quest received mixed reviews so that's a downfall, or Richter because of Dracula X, that had good reviews and meh reviews (from around 75-90).[/quote] WUT man, RICHTER is the main character of SotN, and the main Character of Rondo OF Blood , this 2 games era recognized as the best game of the saga. Richter, believe it or not is one of the most popular characters of Castlevania. Richer > Simon > Alucard >>>>Everyone Dracula X sucks, is just the American bad version for Snes of rondo of blood for PC Engine, which is better in all his the aspects.
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Aug 5, 2011 10:26:59 GMT -5
Simon defines Castlevania like Mega Man does his series. Simon launched the series and became the icon even though he was not the main character of each game.
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 5, 2011 10:38:56 GMT -5
Simon defines Castlevania like Mega Man does his series. Simon launched the series and became the icon even though he was not the main character of each game. I absolutely agree with this. Yes, surprise. lol. Simon is the one who started it all. Everyone else are just successors and only follow the footsteps of Simon.
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Post by DGN on Aug 5, 2011 11:46:15 GMT -5
man, RICHTER is the main character of SotN, and the main Character of Rondo OF Blood , this 2 games era recognized as the best game of the saga. Richter, believe it or not is one of the most popular characters of Castlevania. Richer > Simon > Alucard >>>>Everyone Dracula X sucks, is just the American bad version for Snes of rondo of blood for PC Engine, which is better in all his the aspects. Dracula X IS Rondo of Blood. Both were received greatly. And no. Richter had a key plot in SoTN, but wasn't the main character. ALUCARD was, because you could actually PLAY AS HIM. Yes, you could play as Richter, but only once you beat the game. In no other way could you play as him.
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Post by Chaotic Chao on Aug 5, 2011 11:47:46 GMT -5
...I don't know anything about Castlevania. So I voted, "Don't really care."
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Aug 5, 2011 12:03:09 GMT -5
man, RICHTER is the main character of SotN, and the main Character of Rondo OF Blood , this 2 games era recognized as the best game of the saga. Richter, believe it or not is one of the most popular characters of Castlevania. Richer > Simon > Alucard >>>>Everyone Dracula X sucks, is just the American bad version for Snes of rondo of blood for PC Engine, which is better in all his the aspects. Dracula X IS Rondo of Blood. Both were received greatly. And no. Richter had a key plot in SoTN, but wasn't the main character. ALUCARD was, because you could actually PLAY AS HIM. Yes, you could play as Richter, but only once you beat the game. In no other way could you play as him. Man dont discuss abotu something you dont know. Rondo of Blood is a total diferent game. Dracula X was a bad port of Rndo of Blood. In rondo you can Play as Maria renard. castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Castlevania:_Rondo_of_Blood"There is also a Castlevania game that's considered to be a semi-remake/semi-sequel of sorts to Rondo of Blood called Castlevania: Dracula X (Akumajō Dracula XX in Japan) was released for the Super Nintendo two years later, but it wasn't well received by the fans and critics who noticed substantial and negative differences from the original title. As a result, the PC Engine Super CD version is considered one of the hallmarks of the Castlevania series." Richter is one of the msot popular characters of the castlevania series, even more than Simon. Dr Mariox, by your logic, Protoman is more popular than Zero, because protoman came before after him, no? Everybody knows Zero is more popular than Protoman, or Megaman X more popular than Megaman (Well, there is not a big diference, one is an andoid and the other is a Robotic kid)
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Post by DGN on Aug 5, 2011 12:06:23 GMT -5
Rondo of Blood is a total diferent game. Dracula X was a bad port of Rndo of Blood. In rondo you can Play as Maria renard. It's a port, so it's still basically the same game. So one was received better than the other. But because Dracula X appears to have been received badly, it goes bad for his representation.
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Aug 5, 2011 12:12:20 GMT -5
Man the only thing that are shared by Rondo of Blood and Dracula X is his history. Rondo had more stage (and more large) secret paths, a NEW playable character, optional boss and secrets endings. Dracula X didnt have any of those.
Downlaod it and play it, and you will notice the different, even the music of Rondo is Better (mp3 quality)
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 5, 2011 12:41:39 GMT -5
Ok, here is one way to solve this. When thinking about Castlevania, which character comes to mind first (before this thread was made).
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Aug 5, 2011 12:44:09 GMT -5
Richter and simon
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 5, 2011 12:44:48 GMT -5
I think Simon more than Richter
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Aug 5, 2011 12:45:43 GMT -5
The first thing that comes to mind is " Oh yeah, Castlevania for NES was a great game but Symphony of the Night is the best of the Saga"
EDIT: oh and "Oh yeah and Castlevania 3 was a great game too, i love to play with Alucard, Grant, Sophya and Trevor"
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Post by Chaotic Chao on Aug 5, 2011 12:50:32 GMT -5
The first thing that comes to my mind is, "I'm going to find something else to do because I don't know what Castelvania is. And who's Simon Belmont? The guy with the whip...?"
That's exactly what I think when I hear the word, "Castlevania."
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Post by SmashKing201 on Aug 5, 2011 13:00:20 GMT -5
Sure we can say this Castlevania or that one was the best, but there would be no Richter if there were no Simon Belmont. Also, Simon's game is what made the game a classic. If it wasn't good then there be no Richter. We can't just jump to the successor without having the processor, unless the processor's game was a fail, which Simon's game wasn't.
By the way, when you look at the thousands of Castlevania reps in a fan-made SSB4 roster, at least 80% of the time it is Simon. It's clear who everyone wants from Castlevania.
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