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Post by El Maiz on Feb 28, 2011 19:44:21 GMT -5
First Paragraph: I must have watched the 4th season then.
Second Paragraph: No
Last bit: 1) No it isn't. 2) No, I'm not. I lowered it ONCE because you were being a jerk to multiple people.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Feb 28, 2011 19:48:16 GMT -5
Oy, the dreaded 4th Season? That Season does not do the series justice, IMO. The first two were the best, while the 3rd and Data Squad both do the series justice while doing their own twist on it. You should see Season 1 when you get the chance. You will not be disappointed.
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Post by DGN on Feb 28, 2011 21:34:43 GMT -5
Well...we're getting slightly off topic hear... Indeed, I also used to watch digimon; I don't anymore, though. Personally, my brutal and honest opinion is that I wouldn't really like them in, but the moveset and ideas Golden posed were quite ideal, and he's a character I actually wouldn't mind in the game unlike the battletoads, and would actually possibly play as in the game. Also: Aiai, from super monkey ball. IMO, one of Sega's big three (the other two being NiGHTS and Sonic). Representation: The super monkey ball series isn't that well cared about, but like mentioned above, a major rep of Sega. We do need more non-sonic sega reps, all we have now is Ristar (and I believe on the old roster there was no other sega rep). I'd say 3. Moveset Potential: Well, for one, he could roll over people and throw bananas, but using ideas from the courses (like putting holes in the ground, tilting the stage), possibly the minigames (wasn't there one where you could fly, and with boxing gloves?) and powers from other characters (like teh baby's time traveling thing), he could be given something unique. 4 Uniqueness: He's a monkey with pacman eyes...in a ball....2.5 Popularity: Not so much, I believe, but enough to have a game on the iPhone...3 Total: 12.5: meh, maybe someone else could be better from sega that's not NiGHTS.
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Post by El Maiz on Feb 28, 2011 22:20:16 GMT -5
Representation: One of the most popular games on the Play Station, but never been on a Nintendo system. 4 Moveset potential: 5. He has a wrench, not to mention the good five dozen weapons he has. He also has Clank. Uniqueness: He's a lemur thing that shoots people.4 Popularity: 4. He's not Nintendo, but a very Iconic character for Playstation, and is quite popular, considering that he's had ten games, with more coming. 17 Representation: He's a pretty famous character, if a little old. 4 Moveset Potential: He has a cane, but not much else to work with offensively: 3 Uniqueness: We have plenty of fast characters in Crusade, but none that give the feel of agility (High jumps, slow fall speed, good air control) that Sly would give. 4 Popularity: He's a pretty popular character, but not well known if you don't play Playstation:3.5 14.5
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Feb 28, 2011 23:37:49 GMT -5
Sly would be awesome IMO. It's the one series I WANTED to play, but couldn't. Anyways, my new grade. (To replace the Rabbid as my Big 4.) MissingNo. (Pokemon) Representation: 3-It's from Pokemon, which doesn't need much more representation than it will, but the fact that it's MissingNo. is worthy of an exception. Popularity: 4-MissingNo. is...complicated....it's a Glitch Pokemon from Red/Blue, but it spawned a huge fanbase. There are even arguements on whether MissingNo. should be the canon No. 000 Pokemon. The fact that it actually has a Japanese name as well (Ketsuban), gives a reason why it should. Aside from that, it is famous for the rumor that encountering one will delete your game, which isn't true (to an extent), and even NINTENDO acknowledges it. Moveset Potential: 5-Being a Pokemon, and a Glitch Pokemon at that, the potential is near limitless. Uniqueness: 5-It's the infamous Glitch Pokemon. Not only that, but I chose the Ghost form to add to the uniqueness, as Smash doesn't have a ghostly fighter yet. It's moves would be STRONG, but it itself would be weak and easy to knock around. This would be a reference to it's next to nothing Defense, but terrifying Attack. A Glass Cannon for you TVTropers. Overall Score: 17. What do you think?
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Post by member 777 on Feb 28, 2011 23:39:25 GMT -5
Moveset Potential: He has a cane, but not much else to work with offensively
what? he has some much more move set potential
up b = jumps and uses his parachute or uses that machine that makes him jump really high
b = does that sneak death spin he does on enemys on sly 3
down b= smoke bomb or jumps and uses that drill attack in sly 3 when you jump press square or circle
side b=pounce attack
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Post by Dettadeus on Feb 28, 2011 23:55:01 GMT -5
Golden: I disagree with you on a couple of missingno points: Representation: 4. It's the most famous glitch of the two most famous pokemon games. Sure, pokemon would have a ton of reps, but Pokemon is Nintendo's second largest series, and this is arguably the most famous glitch ever observed. Popularity: 5. This thing could give you infinite everything, given you have at least one of the item to start with. Everybody loves it.
Also, I think MissingNo's idle form and most sprites should be of its blocky-L form, using different forms and glitch pokemon as it's attacks. Like: N-Special: Water Gun. Either similar to Squirtle's Water Gun or it would actually shoot pressurized water for damage. S-Special: Ghost Glitch. Changes to ghost form, attack very similar to Fox Illusion. D-Special: Glitch Freeze. Similar to Mewtwo's Disable, probably has slightly different effects. U-Special: Flying Kanghaskan. Changes (evolves, I suppose) into Kanghaskan, uses Fly.
Most of it's standard attacks would change it into Kabutops skeleton or Aerodactyl skeleton.
Final Smash would either be Super Glitch, Glitch City or Infiniduplication. Super Glitch would essentially be a one-hit KO on anyone in the immediate vicinity, but would have insane cool-down. Or it could freeze everything, and give MissingNo an alt-form with other glitch pokemon assisting it, so it could wreak havoc on the players.
Glitch City would make all other players experience glitches in their gameplay; faulty controls, randomly taking damage instead of dealing it, sprites would randomly change into other glitch pokemon, etc. Would probably be insanely hard to code though.
Infiniduplication would make a ton of a random item show up on the stage, but only for use by MissingNo. This could include Bomb-ombs, pokeballs, food, soccer balls, etc.
Check that awesomeness out.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Mar 1, 2011 0:10:11 GMT -5
The 3 in Representation is because Pokemon already (and will) have plenty of reps.
The 4 in Popularity is considering the majority of the Pokemon fans (newer ones) that never even heard of MissingNo.
As for the Ghost, I chose it because it isn't a garble of an eyesore (Pixel) or taken from another Pokemon (Fossils and Substitute).
And I would've gone with canon Pokemon moves except for the Final Smash, which I call "Super Glitch", the name being based off the "Superglitch" attack. Up would be Sky Attack Normal would be Water Gun Down would be Pay Day Side would be Bind
These 4 moves are all of Missingno.'s default moves in R/B and Yellow.
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Post by Dettadeus on Mar 1, 2011 0:28:29 GMT -5
Meh, I still like my idea better. And Bind should be d-special with Pay Day as S-special in yours. It make more sense. Sorta.
Wanna go ahead and make a suggestion/discussion thread, or should I?
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on Mar 1, 2011 0:38:42 GMT -5
Nah. I may make a combined one for my Big 4 later on.
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Post by El Maiz on Mar 1, 2011 17:39:21 GMT -5
Moveset Potential: He has a cane, but not much else to work with offensively what? he has some much more move set potential up b = jumps and uses his parachute or uses that machine that makes him jump really high b = does that sneak death spin he does on enemys on sly 3 down b= smoke bomb or jumps and uses that drill attack in sly 3 when you jump press square or circle side b=pounce attack How on Earth would the smoke bomb do anything? Up B is obvious. PARAGLIDER B I suppose so
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Post by member 777 on Mar 1, 2011 19:14:45 GMT -5
smoke bomb does stun damage like lucas and dk down b
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Post by DGN on Mar 1, 2011 19:55:21 GMT -5
you mean "grounded" (with lucas' down special), or "stunned" (lucas' > special)
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Post by El Maiz on Mar 1, 2011 20:30:46 GMT -5
Stunned. Not grounded.
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Post by member 777 on Mar 1, 2011 20:59:39 GMT -5
yeah stunned is what i meant
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Post by DGN on Mar 1, 2011 21:27:17 GMT -5
I don't see how smoke paralyzes people...just alters their vision... The smoke ball didn't do anything in brawl....
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Post by El Maiz on Mar 2, 2011 7:58:11 GMT -5
They wouldn't be able to see or move very well.
Maybe it'd reverse their controls for a few seconds?
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Post by DGN on Mar 11, 2011 17:41:03 GMT -5
Ryu Hayabusa
Representation: He represents Tecmo, a currently unrepresented company, Japan, ninjas, and awesomeness. 5
Popularity: Its a very well known game that's been on several different consoles, existing since the days of the NES. He's been on a number of SSB fangames, and is definitely well known. 5
Moveset Potential: He's a ninja that can use a sword, ninja stars, fire, and a large shuriken that goes back to him for great skill. 4.5
Uniqueness: A ninja...3.5 Overall: 18
Richter Belmont(As much as I'd perfer Simon, Richter would be the better choice)
Representation: Another Konami rep, of which we need more. Plus, Castelvania is a very well known series, also dating back to the NES. 4.5
Popularity: Again, very popular. Also considered to be in a few Smash Bros. Games. 5
Moveset Potential: Not only can the range of a whip be a force to be reckoned with, but he also uses axes, daggers, holy crosses, fire oil, boomerangs, and much, much more. Also, he can use the weapons of his enemies, seeing how close they are to him, like bats. He also appears to have some sort of magic power inside of him, and has been known to kick a lot. 5
Uniqueness: A vampire Slayer, full of jewelry, magical, named after an earthquake scale, uses many other weapons, and is basically a transylvanian character. 4.5
Overall: 19
Sora
Representation: Square Enix, and despite the fact that a Final Fantasy character is very, very likely, he would give another character to that. Plus, he also is a sort of a semi-4th party character, if there would be people from Disney in his moveset. 5
Popularity: Been in several other smash games, but I'm not sure how popular the game is itself. 4
Moveset Potential: He can use a sword-key thing, magic, special abilites, cool sword techniques, summoning other creatures to attack, gliding, the power of Disney, the ability to go into super-awesome powerful forms, etc. The only problem here is how well the moveset is made; if its bad, he's bad himself. 5
Uniqueness: Has a bunch of jewelry of sorts, a necklace of a crown, magical, spiky hair, but its pretty much already been seen before. 3
Overall: 17
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Mar 11, 2011 23:55:44 GMT -5
Jack Cayman (MadWorld by SEGA) Representation -4.5- MadWorld was a unique experience that was literally black and white with the exception of the red blood. It had cool comic book cutscenes and had its own unique gameplay. Popularity -5- MadWorld was very popular and SEGA's most popular gore game on Wii. Jack Cayman became a beat-em-up icon after release and will be appearing in Anarchy Reigns on PS3 and X-Box 360. Moveset Potential -5- Jack had tons of weapons and skills, including 15 finisher moves from MadWorld. Uniqueness -5- He's a buff guy with a retractable Chainsaw that has no color to his name. No one else is even comparable. Overall Score- 19.5 TOTAL SCORE: 98 I support Jack Cayman for SSBC.
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Post by El Maiz on Mar 12, 2011 13:45:20 GMT -5
I think that that game would be the only "gorey" game for the Wii.
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