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Post by DGN on May 10, 2011 21:26:02 GMT -5
Yup, it was mechanics. That's why it wasn't listed in the booklet.
1. It was intentional because, like I said, it was not originally intended.
2. I still don't know what L cancel is. If it was in Brawl, then please post proof he knew about it.
3. Unless you state that you're not sure, like I did.
Seriously. What's with you Melee players and your stubborness.
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Post by El Maiz on May 10, 2011 21:27:19 GMT -5
i CANT stand against people who believe himself a "wise" without knowing antyhing about the thing is talking about. Sorry but i jsut dont tolerate that kind of people. EDIT: Again, Wavedash as game mechanics was intended The messages seem to be conflicting. Apparently you have a low self-esteem. |
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Post by falcon8r on May 10, 2011 22:15:38 GMT -5
No flaming, or I'm starting this thread over.
That means all four of you.
Anywho, wavedashing to me is pretty cool now that I know what you can do with it. I don't think it has a place in SSBC though.
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on May 10, 2011 22:20:46 GMT -5
LOLOLOOOOOOOOOL www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=1624162- 1- Cpu is dumb, he cant even do L Cancel 2- Cause Sakurai didnt knowed how useful he was 3- You noob Smash 64 doesnt have air dodging LOL !!!!!!!! EDIT: Golden, lol, you jsut sayd it, it was intended, is an exploit but it was intended so  No. Read it again. Sliding from an airdodge was intended The USES for it (i.e. Wavedashing) was not. @falcon: You mean, Felipe, Generic, Detta, and Maiz, right? Not me? I only gave information from the page on Wavedashing. |
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Post by Dettadeus on May 10, 2011 22:54:56 GMT -5
Waitwaitwait, how was I involved in that? I made a correction and told Felipe to stop flaming. The "silence, you" part was intended to be a joke.
Anyways, I finally managed to Wavedash with Mewtwo, which I was convinced was impossible. I just had the timing all wrong, since Mewtwo's has to be performed much later than Jiggs' and Pichu's.
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Post by sumika on May 11, 2011 11:11:24 GMT -5
EDIT: Again, Wavedash as game mechanics was intended -face palm- You cant know this unless you're a Dev of Melee. Which I dont think you were. Some people dont play with AT's because its just not how they like to play. Stop being really ignorant, AND rude, everytime someone brings up AT's and Melee; Or MeleeVBrawl. It almost always starts a flame war, And its just silly. You're always at the root of it all too. IIRC. |
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Post by PartisanDaw on May 11, 2011 12:56:26 GMT -5
Only Pro's play whit AT's. Soooo... MUCH People don't use it.
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Post by falcon8r on May 11, 2011 13:21:55 GMT -5
Only Pro's play whit AT's. Soooo... MUCH People don't use it. This is true. That's what Sakurai meant about making the game more accessible. I think wavedashing is not the only thing that makes SSBM less newbie-friendly though. The combos, physics, and overall speed of the game require some getting used to. |
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Post by PartisanDaw on May 11, 2011 13:27:07 GMT -5
Still Melee is my Favourite Smash game. I use L Cancel A LOT when i'm Link.
1.Melee
2.64
3.Brawl (Never played)
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Post by Felipe_9595 on May 11, 2011 14:41:15 GMT -5
EDIT: Again, Wavedash as game mechanics was intended -face palm- You cant know this unless you're a Dev of Melee. Which I dont think you were. Some people dont play with AT's because its just not how they like to play. Stop being really ignorant, AND rude, everytime someone brings up AT's and Melee; Or MeleeVBrawl. It almost always starts a flame war, And its just silly. You're always at the root of it all too. IIRC. Yeah, i a, SOOO ignorant, thats why i putted a sakurai quote He sayd wavedash was intended If i dont know, i dont talk (and i know about melee ) |
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Post by DGN on May 11, 2011 15:50:51 GMT -5
OBJECTION "Contrary to the common belief that it is a glitch, Wavedash is actually a physics exploit because while sliding from an airdodge is an intended part of the physics engine, the uses found for it weren't intended."In the link you posted: There was nothing in there that said about it being intentional nor unintentional. End of discussion. |
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Post by Felipe_9595 on May 11, 2011 16:06:44 GMT -5
OBJECTION "Contrary to the common belief that it is a glitch, Wavedash is actually a physics exploit because while sliding from an airdodge is an intended part of the physics engine, the uses found for it weren't intended." In the link you posted: There was nothing in there that said about it being intentional nor unintentional. End of discussion. |
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Post by DGN on May 11, 2011 16:16:39 GMT -5
Google's definition of exploit:
Sliding from an air dodge was just supposed to be a really fast slide; only going the distance of an air dodge.
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Post by Felipe_9595 on May 11, 2011 16:27:30 GMT -5
Sigh. I have never sayd Wavedash was not an Explit. IT IS an exploit BUT IS NOT A GLITCH. It was INTENDED.Have you seen the minus world glitch on Smb 1?? That IS a glitch, cause it was not programmed, it was a glitch involving teleporting tube identitys. Wavedash, in change, WAS INTENDED, cause, (Sakurai Words) When Air dodge was programed, it caused the character go trought the flour, thats why they PROGRAMMED the slide.
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Post by DGN on May 11, 2011 16:52:54 GMT -5
I understood it was an exploit, but I was trying to convince that it was not intended.
Anyways, I'm done with this thread. You can't seem to understand truth.
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Post by Felipe_9595 on May 11, 2011 16:58:48 GMT -5
www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162416Just read th last aprt about Chain Ace conclusion (the same thing i am trying to explain you) "A glitch is considered: Anything in a game or programs code that was unintentional after the release of that product. So, since they knew about it in the development of Melee, they INTENTIONALLY put that feature in the game. Give him some credit for once people. Good night, it's over, you can all now get on with your lives."
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Post by GoldenYuiitusin on May 11, 2011 17:26:37 GMT -5
*Sigh of annoyance*. The uses for sliding (i.e. Wavedashing) was NOT intended. The sliding ITSELF was.
The sooner you can understand this, the sooner we can bring this stupid argument to an end.
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Post by sumika on May 11, 2011 17:38:16 GMT -5
Or you could, you know. Just let him be ignorant and ignore him.
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Post by Felipe_9595 on May 11, 2011 17:44:55 GMT -5
*Sigh of annoyance*. The uses for sliding (i.e. Wavedashing) was NOT intended. The sliding ITSELF was. The sooner you can understand this, the sooner we can bring this stupid argument to an end. LOLOLOL SLIDE. ACROSS. THE.FLOOR. is WAVEDASH Explanation Why wavedash happens:. The sudden momentum from an airdodge is transfered to the ground, causing a slide. That is part of the physics engine. If a character is spiked to the ground diagonally, their body will slide a bit. Even happens in Brawl. Wavedash is slide across the floor. You cant state Sliding across the floor with a air dodge aimed to the ground is not wavedash. Thats the meaning of wavedash. EDIT: An as i stated, wavedash is an explanation. it was totally programmed, but the programmer didnt knowed how useful it was. thats why is an exploit, the programmed the "slide", but they didnt knowed how that was going to be used (example, i doubt sakurai programmed wavedash to be useful to dodge attacks an counterattack with an sliding smash attacks ) |
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Post by El Maiz on May 11, 2011 18:37:31 GMT -5
As Felipe said, sliding across the floor is wavedashing. Whatever you do out of it is a different thing.
Point in case, end discussion.
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