Official v2 Tier List Crusade 0.6

[Felipe_9595]

fox special cant sweetspot (In the strick term of the word) but he can aim it (If you are paralel) to become unvulnerable meanwhile you permform it.

Fox up b only absorb knockback until certan point, you can hit him and he will take damage, but he will perfomr the upb.

[PartisanDaw]

Almost all character have bad attack if you compare them whit Goku.

[Felipe_9595]

not fox, fox is better than goku xD

[DGN]

Jul 27, 2011 6:30:20 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

EDIT: Generic. when we are talking of KO% we are talking about the necesary damage to create a star ko/ side stage ko. Not a Gimp ko. Fox fsmash can kill in 80-90%, but i apply your logic he can kill on 40 and then do another to kill at 55%

what the heck is a Gimp KO? and at that I did a Side Stage KO. Killed him from the side.
I don't see WHY we wouldn't talk about the normal, non-star KO. Normal KOs should be how you judge...

[Zeldasmash]

Jul 26, 2011 13:59:40 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

Drills FTW (poor kirby, he have melee dair XD)



EDIT: Sadly, we cannot do Specials out of shields (A la brawl/melee/64), fox dairs come faster

Look at the attatchment

Attachments:

[Felipe_9595]

Oh true, ehre is the .psd if someone wants it :

PD: hey zelda, can you apste is as text xD? i cant open .wps files

www.megaupload.com/?d=EJQ66GAN

EDIT: oh in that case generic Fox fshams kill at 50 and dair at 10%

Thats why you have to consider the ko% as when a star ko or a side happens, not because a character cant recovery

[Dettadeus]

Felipe, you should SERIOUSLY start reading over your posts before posting them. You referred to Krystal as a male repeatedly in one of your posts, and now you're just typing the letters to a word in random order. "Shams" doesn't equal "Smash".

And this is just turning into an argument about Ristar's KO potential, which IMO belongs better in a BR thread. Which obviously can't happen yet.

I'm annoyed that all of you continually state that the character is "getting buffed for 0.7". Keep in mind that this is a tier list for 0.6, NOT 0.7. I could be arguing that Jigglypuff should be higher because Rising Pound will be working in 0.7, but I'm not because it doesn't work in 0.6. The same can be said for a lot of characters. Quit hiding behind "he/she's getting buffed in the next version" because it has absolutely no relevance to the tier list we're discussing right now.

Anyways, I've seen Krystal's Demon Sniper kick Fox out of his U-Special before. The main hitboxes collided and cancelled each other out. I don't remember what happened right afterwards though.

And here's ZS's other list that he posted as an attachment:

Possible Crusade Tier List v3

S:   Goku, Krystal, Fox
A:   Bomberman, Meta Knight, Ryu, Saki
B:   Toad, Young Link, Ristar, Mach Rider, Link, Tails
C:   Lucario, Jigglypuff, Mario, Zero Suit Samus
D:   Samus, Captain Falcon, Mewtwo, Waluigi, Luigi
E:   Knuckles, Sonic, Lucas
F:   Pikachu, Ness, Peach, Wario
G:  Snake, Kirby
H: Yoshi

[Felipe_9595]

Sorry detta, this keyboard is horrible and i donw know why some letters comes in diferent order xP

lulz, shemale xD

Fox can take hitstun when the half of the animation have been performed

[The 85.]

I that Tier List. (The one Zeldasmash posted.)

[Dettadeus]

You what that tier list?
I what it too.

(btw I think what=like)

[Felipe_9595]

Fox better thank krystal. Wtf with snake o-o? Toad an link are too high, they are the worst characters of the game with the worst recovery on the game. Lcuas is way too low, apart from that i am ok.

S:   Fox,Goku, Krystal,
A:   , Meta Knight, Ryu, Saki
B:   Toad, Young Link, Ristar, Mach Rider,, Tails
C:   Lucario, Jigglypuff, Mario, Captain Falcon,
D:    Lucas,Snake, Mewtwo, ,Waluigi, Luigi Zero Suit Samus,Samus,
E:   Knuckles, Sonic,
F:   Pikachu, Ness, Peach, Wario
G:  Kirby,Bomberman,Link
H: Yoshi

Fixed

Edit: Whoa re you xD

Lol detta you posted before than me xP

EDIT 2: Down B of krystal clashs with Fox up b. thats a benefit

[Dettadeus]

You have to keep in mind that Krystal can perform an infinite combo on any character with her Demon Sniper. Fox leaves quite a few openings himself that Krystal can take advantage of.

And Fox better thank Krystal for what?

[Felipe_9595]

Fox can reflect a Sniper Shot for 1.5x tiems the damage and stun, thats a free full charged Upsmash.

Ehm lol

- Better recovery
- Better combos
- Better ground game
- Better aerial game

And, we are ignoring the infinites and crusade cancel. if not, the Top tier would be krystal luigi waluigi and lcuas (not ordered)

[Chaotic Chao]

The fact that Link is still low on that tier list makes me wonder what you have been listening to. You can't just put Link so dang low just because his recovery isn't great. His recovery isn't terrible, you know.

Try reading the wiki page on Link.

[Felipe_9595]

Man the wiki was wrote by daw. just saying

Link recovery is BAD: IS THE WORST OF THE GAME. HOW IS NOT BAD, IS WORST THAN BOMBERMAN

he have a POOR aerial and ground game. EVERY other character can own him.

Btw, there is no reason why you cant use link. The fact is every other character is better than link.

[The 85.]

Jul 27, 2011 13:59:03 GMT -5 Dettadeus said:

You what that tier list?
I what it too.

(btw I think what=like)

Oh sorry, I forgot to write "like".

[Chaotic Chao]

Why do you still insist on focusing on Link's recovery and aerials but just plain ignore ever single other move he has?

Link excels on the ground. And you say he has poor ground game. He has very powerful attacks (especially on the ground) and good range. What makes you think he's so bad?

[Felipe_9595]

Powerful =/= good. Lag = bad. All of link moves have a starting and ending lag, easily punishable. What happens if link miss an ground up b??? Free hit. and Dair??? Free hit? And Fsmash? Free hit.

[The 85.]

F-smash free hit? If one's fast, you can punish your opponent with the second strike of the F-smash.

[Felipe_9595]

And you are???

Fsmash is slow, try to perform a fmsmash to the air and see how many you have to wait to move again