Official v2 Tier List Crusade 0.6

[Excalibur]

Jul 27, 2011 17:16:28 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

No, i am not ignoring you, srly, I am stating facts, His air game is poor and alggy, same for gorund and hsi recovery is and, thats why he is lwo tier. he overall sucks

Excalibur and you are??? Go play brawl scrub

Brawl Scrub? Ha ha. Don't make me laugh. Give me your FC and I'll destroy you.
I know a couple of people here, that's all you need to know.
And for the record, I already won half the battle by using correct grammar in the first place.

[Felipe_9595]

Thats the problem, he is playing brawl.

In the counterpart i have been playing melee since 2007 and i placed #33 on chile's national tournament (Both, melee and brawl with an asistence of 160 players)

yeah, i am better than yous. Not being cocky or something, but you started with the hating.

EDIT: i dont have wii, i only have a gamecube.

Dont you play 64? i can kick you on that too

[Excalibur]

Jul 27, 2011 17:21:32 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

Thats the problem, he is playing brawl.

In the counterpart i have been playing melee since 2007 and i placed #33 on chile's national tournament (Both, melee and brawl with an asistence of 160 players)

yeah, i am better than yous. Not being cocky or something, but you started with the hating.

How am I hating? I was simply stating the fact that you are wrong with that tier list you made, (agreeing with MANY other people) and you're just acting butt-hurt about it. You still won't understand how to use correct grammar too. Also, I can destroy you too in Project M. (If you even know what that is.)

[Chaotic Chao]

Jul 27, 2011 17:16:28 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

No, i am not ignoring you, srly, I am stating facts, His air game is poor and alggy, same for gorund and hsi recovery is and, thats why he is lwo tier. he overall sucks

I would say that I already covered this, but I seriously doubt you'll change your mind, even after my reasoning.

And I think it would be fun to play brawl with some of you. That could get interesting. =p

[Felipe_9595]

Jul 27, 2011 17:23:12 GMT -5 Excalibur said:

Jul 27, 2011 17:21:32 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

Thats the problem, he is playing brawl.

In the counterpart i have been playing melee since 2007 and i placed #33 on chile's national tournament (Both, melee and brawl with an asistence of 160 players)

yeah, i am better than yous. Not being cocky or something, but you started with the hating.

How am I hating? I was simply stating the fact that you are wrong with that tier list you made, (agreeing with MANY other people) and you're just acting butt-hurt about it. You still won't understand how to use correct grammar too. Also, I can destroy your ass too in Project M. (If you even know what that is.)

man, you are hilarious.



i was playing with a controller without z and r, dont blame.

Next week i am getting my wii, wait until then.

[Excalibur]

Jul 27, 2011 17:25:32 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

Jul 27, 2011 17:23:12 GMT -5 Excalibur said:

How am I hating? I was simply stating the fact that you are wrong with that tier list you made, (agreeing with MANY other people) and you're just acting butt-hurt about it. You still won't understand how to use correct grammar too. Also, I can destroy your ass too in Project M. (If you even know what that is.)

man, you are hilarious.



i was playing with a controller without z and r, dont blame.

Next week i am getting my wii, wait until then.

So you can Dash Dance. So what? You don't need to rely on Z and R. It's called, "using L to shield" and "changing your controls". You could have simply used Y to Grab and such. Plus throughout most of the match you got destroyed by a noob who took his time to charge his smashes, and lacks DI. He even edge-hogged you.

[Felipe_9595]

I play melee wavedashing with r and grabbing with z. Thats why i used ganon in first place (I main falco and G&W)

[Excalibur]

Jul 27, 2011 17:30:14 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

I play melee wavedashing with r and grabbing with z. Thats why i used ganon in first place (I main falco and G&W)

L and R have both the same exact functions, so using L won't make much of a difference. Quit using excuses, you can easily just use L. Plus the fact that you almost got killed by a Luigi who doesn't even know how to use Luigi Cyclone to gain vertical distance in recovery, and tried spamming U-Special to land that sweet-spot. Fight me and I'll show you a better Falco. I mean really, if you had as much skill as you said, (supposedly #33 in a national tourney) you should have AT LEAST 2-stocked the guy.

[Dettadeus]

OI.
The next off-topic post I see from either of you is getting an infraction. And Felipe, at this point that means you'll get that 3-day ban I warned you about. So both of you, shut it. I don't care who started it, you both participated (this means no complaining).
In fact, I might just give both of you the same infraction, the only difference being it'll knock Felipe over into a temp-ban.

So I will say this once: ON. TOPIC. NOW.

[Felipe_9595]

Jul 27, 2011 17:24:45 GMT -5 Chaotic Chao said:

Jul 27, 2011 17:16:28 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

No, i am not ignoring you, srly, I am stating facts, His air game is poor and alggy, same for gorund and hsi recovery is and, thats why he is lwo tier. he overall sucks

I would say that I already covered this, but I seriously doubt you'll change your mind, even after my reasoning.

And I think it would be fun to play brawl with some of you. That could get interesting. =p

yeah, i am a hard guy respecting opinions, but you have to believe me, i am experimenting with Frame- by - Frame and i know what i am talking about respecting lag.

[The 85.]

You know what? I quit, you aren't reasonable.
You never take opinions, you're ignoring every Link opinion.
So, I quit posting in topics where you post.

[Felipe_9595]

Nop, youa re the unrasonable one. I already stated all the proofs what i need. None of them where refuted. If youc ant refute it, it means is truth.

Hey detta i smell a flamewar here, i have been infracted for less than dat

[The 85.]

Can't you go to test the character in the game?
You are only looking at Frame Data. :/

[Dettadeus]

@felipe: Are you telling me that I should infract you? I'm being nice at the moment, don't take that for granted. >_>

Anyways, frame data is important. Know why Meta is in his own tier in Brawl? Mostly frame data. D- and F-Smashes specifically. However, it doesn't automatically mean that a character is crap. Aren't most of Dedede's moves EXTREMELY laggy in Brawl? Yes. And yet he's still very high up.
Btw I'm not arguing for either side, I'm just clarifying.

[DGN]

@zs: Yes! Yes! Now THAT Is what our rankings list should be! I have no objections about it, and I currently thnk that's the best list in however many pages felipe brought us to!

[The 85.]

Zeldasmash Ranking's List is the best.

[PartisanDaw]

Jul 27, 2011 14:33:13 GMT -5 Felipe_9595 said:

Man the wiki was wrote by daw. just saying

Horrible wrong Felipe. Falcon88,ZS and me wrote the Article.

Jul 27, 2011 15:52:51 GMT -5 Zeldasmash said:

Well here is my v2 opinioned tier list v3

True and epic tier list,ZS.

Jul 28, 2011 9:48:14 GMT -5 The 85. said:

Zeldasmash Ranking's List is the best.

Agreed.

[Felipe_9595]

I believe Krystal is top 5, but definitely not better then Fox and Metaknight in my opinion, and I don't see why you guys have Goku so high, but okay.

Level 9's don't prove how good the character is.

I feel Krystal is a strong character, but her stun projectile is slow and easy to block on reaction at any distance. So I don't feel it's THAT strong of a tool besides when edgeguarding characters with a recovery they can't cancel or is slow(like snake).

Also, are you guys going to add stock matches with a timer?

Tornado needs to be buffed btw, it's completely useless atm, and he gets punished for using it correctly, wtf? Either buff it, or give him a new move completely.

Powershielding window needs to be bigger(4-8 frames), it's currently way to small to be done consistently even with practice.

Please take my opinions into consideration, you don't have to actually do it, but atleast think about what I'm saying when I post. I believe this game has a solid future once it gets done.

Yeah and i am wrong. If youa re not gonna lsiten to me (I am better than you in all the smashs games) at least listen to him

[ensane]

I asked Falcon and he said he's buffing MK's tornado.
I agree with Felipe in regards to Krystal's stun being extremely telegraphed, but I'm sure Det knows of some combos into it.
Powershielding window is tiny, but it doesn't matter since they can't block projectiles. By the time a human realizes he's powershielded a melee attack, it's too late to punish anyway.
I still think Bomberman is way too high; hime being above MK makes me cringe.
I also think lucas should be above Knuckles and Sonic, just from traps and combos.
I've asked over and over, yet I still don't know why Ryu is that high. It's mind boggling to me.
Other than that I think the last one ZS posted is the best.

@the 85.: I think Felipe is right about Link. But I'd only say a drop to the top of C-tier. I honestly don't think he's better than that.

[The 85.]

Yeah, Link is better if he is in C-Tier anyway.