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Post by Dettadeus on Sept 25, 2011 19:29:18 GMT -5
Well, Generic's right. The forum's been pretty dead lately. SO. I feel like doing something relatively productive, and here it is. Since Werekill is still "too busy" to make the BR apps, I'll just start up the tier list discussion here.
1. Goku 2. Mr. Game&Watch 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 81. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. 33. 34. 35. 36.
Now we're onto the #2 spot! Explain who should be #2 in 0.7 and why. Current Candidates: Fox
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Sept 25, 2011 19:51:08 GMT -5
Lulz at the name
ok, so, everyone knows Goku is Top Tier, he haves a lot of broken moves (U air and Kamehameha to name a few), its hard to kill and kills in low percentages. he haves a bad recovery (Not so bad as link, but is bad) and a few bad matchups (Fox) but thats all his weakness.
The others top tier characters would be G&W, Fox and Meta Knight (Not ordered)
For the bottom tier, Link, Bomberman and Falcon deserve to be there.
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Post by Dettadeus on Sept 25, 2011 19:59:07 GMT -5
Alright, looks like we have one vote for Goku. Maybe one day he won't be lolbroken. Let's hold off on discussion of the other tiers until after we get the top 5-10 or so.
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Post by ensane on Sept 26, 2011 0:58:46 GMT -5
For number 1 I'd say Goku. His projectiles are good enough to keep him from getting camped too much, and his close range attacks are good as well. He seems to have all around favorable matchups as well.
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Post by -Dr.MarioX- on Sept 26, 2011 6:04:37 GMT -5
GOKU TOAD KRYSTAL BOMBERMAN
...mach rider (mid tier)...
That's all I know.
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Post by falcon8r on Sept 26, 2011 9:02:25 GMT -5
Top tier is Goku, Fox, Krystal, Meta Knight, and Gooey, IMO. Although I would like to think that the rest of the characters other than the bottom-tier ones are pretty well-balanced. Bottom-tier to me would be Jiggs, C. Falcon, and Pikachu.
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Post by Excalibur on Sept 26, 2011 15:47:06 GMT -5
Goku, Gooey, Krystal, G&W, and Fox for top-tier.
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Post by The 85. on Sept 26, 2011 16:47:50 GMT -5
Link for mid tier. inb4felipeobjects
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Post by Zeldasmash on Sept 26, 2011 16:51:27 GMT -5
S Tier 1. Goku 2. GAW 3. Fox 4. Saki 5. Krystal (Planning on moving her position)
A Tier 6. Gooey 7. Toad 8. Meta Knight 9. Mach Rider
B Tier 10. Ristar 11. Mewtwo 12. Evil Ryu 13. Chun-Li 14. Toon Link 15. Link 16. Mario 17. Lucario 18. Sonic
C Tier 19. Zero Suit Samus 20. Ryu
D Tier 21. Knuckles 22. Samus 23. Bomberman 24. Captain Falcon 25. Tails 26. Peach 27. Luigi
E Tier 28. Megaman 29. Waluigi
F Tier 30. Pikachu 31. Ness 32. Lucas 33. Jigglypuff 34. Snake
G Tier 35. Kirby
H Tier 36. Yoshi 37. Wario
I am gonna receive hate for this. A lot.
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Post by DGN on Sept 26, 2011 16:54:48 GMT -5
Samus should be high B tier. At the least, she's better than ZSS.
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Post by Zeldasmash on Sept 26, 2011 16:56:33 GMT -5
Samus does not have the high tier range.
Jiggs has this but in a more intimidating and horrifying way.
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Post by The 85. on Sept 26, 2011 17:07:03 GMT -5
Yay, Toon **** is one place higher than Link. I agree with this Tier List.
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Post by Zeldasmash on Sept 26, 2011 17:17:20 GMT -5
I might gonna get heat for Mew2's position so im gonna go right ahead an explain:
Mewtwo is in every way better than his Melee incarnation. Mewtwo's has great combo ability and finally a killer (great kill power). Mewtwo has a reliable chain grab and powerful throws. Mewtwo's Confusion is a reflector that can damage (in Melee it reflects, but the reflected projectile does no damage) and Disable is a good gimp move and edgeguard move and its fatal to those with poor recoveries like Mach Rider and Waluigi.
Mewtwo actually fares well against Goku so give him that.
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Post by Excalibur on Sept 26, 2011 17:40:20 GMT -5
I might gonna get heat for Mew2's position so im gonna go right ahead an explain: Mewtwo is in every way better than his Melee incarnation. Mewtwo's has great combo ability and finally a killer (great kill power). Mewtwo has a reliable chain grab and powerful throws. Mewtwo's Confusion is a reflector that can damage (in Melee it reflects, but the reflected projectile does no damage) and Disable is a good gimp move and edgeguard move and its fatal to those with poor recoveries like Mach Rider and Waluigi. Mewtwo actually fares well against Goku so give him that. Isn't Mewtwo still light-weight like his Melee counter-part? If so, large target + lightweight is very easily combo'd. (I didn't get him for obvious reasons.) Also, Gooey does seem to have pretty good potential for S-tier. As for TL, he has pretty good tools at his disposal to be high-ish B-tier. He has great spacing game, and his z-air can out prioritize the projectiles from all the characters above him within B-rank (except Ristar of course). He can easily deal pressure on his opponent to be able to space by using a mix-up of both his 'rang, z-air and n-air.
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Post by Dettadeus on Sept 26, 2011 17:48:00 GMT -5
Zeldasmash. Did you forget about Peach? And her ridiculously broken Turnips? And all that awesome stuff I found? There's NO WAY she's #26. You even said she was high-tier material.
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Post by DGN on Sept 26, 2011 17:52:39 GMT -5
Samus does not have the high tier range. Jiggs has this but in a more intimidating and horrifying way. Jigglypuff has range? Ha. No. She doesn't. Considering neutrals at the least, probably the worst in the game. Whereas with Samus. There's the whole "possibly strongest projectile in the game that goes across the whole stage" thing. There's the "Very sharp lock-on missle" thing. There's the Power Missle Strafe. and the whole "spam grapple" thing. Heck. See the guide I made(in her individual character board)
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Post by Zeldasmash on Sept 26, 2011 17:54:32 GMT -5
Dude. Thats what i meant. Her range is so horrifyingly bad.
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Post by DGN on Sept 26, 2011 18:02:20 GMT -5
Wut? I just gave quite a few explanations on why Samus' range is awesome. You keep on saying it's bad. I say Jiggs has horrible range, yet you say she does. And now you still say Samus has horrible range. I don't get it
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Post by Felipe_9595 on Sept 27, 2011 10:19:19 GMT -5
Toon Link is far better than Link, lower Link. There is no way toad is high tier. Absolutely no way (Laaaaaaag)
Mewtwo should be removed, the only way to get him as playable is removing 2 characters (even if i agree he is pretty good).
Snake should be a little higher (He is pretty bad on 0.7, but not that bad, he should be 30 at least)
Megaman should be higher and Ristar lower. Apart from that i am ok with that list xPPPP
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Post by ensane on Sept 27, 2011 11:26:07 GMT -5
Okay, this discussion needs some guidance otherwise it will degenerate into petty squabbles (again). Is anyone willing to set up a system for discussion and voting?
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