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Post by DGN on Feb 20, 2011 8:24:50 GMT -5
This is NOT a tier list. Those are people who usually win in tournaments with those characters.
If you have a question on where I put a character, ask it in the comments.
Also, characters in one section are in no particular order.
Top:
Goku
Ristar
Meta Knight
Bomberman
Tails
High:
Mach Rider
Captain Falcon
Ryu
Lucas
Jigglypuff
Lucario
Saki
Fox
Toad
Krystal
Med:
Mario
Luigi
Link
Young Link
Wario
Waluigi
Sonic
Pikachu
Knuckles
Samus
Megaman
Ness
Kirby
Low:
Snake
Peach
Yoshi
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Post by gigapichu on Feb 20, 2011 8:32:13 GMT -5
Yoshi in the Low?
YOSHIS IN THE LOW?!
Well how dare you, sir.
Yoshi is godly in the hands of a Yoshi master.
(Yes, I know this is your list)
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Post by PartisanDaw on Feb 20, 2011 8:48:18 GMT -5
Snake is LOW? What?
Hes at least High.
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Post by DGN on Feb 20, 2011 8:51:33 GMT -5
Yoshi in the Low? YOSHIS IN THE LOW?! Well how dare you, sir. Yoshi is godly in the hands of a Yoshi master. (Yes, I know this is your list) I completely believe this. How well a person plays the character tops how well the character is. The reason he's low is because he's the glitched up master of glitches. You could kill youself with him. Daw, Snake is heavyweight, you can easily self-destruct, his moves aren't too fast, he jumps too low, etc. |
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Post by gigapichu on Feb 20, 2011 9:03:49 GMT -5
You can kill yourself with ANY character.
Yoshis ability to throw Eggs in almost any direction is incredibly good for combos.
His Egg Roll can hit up to 3 times in a Row, all doing great damage.
A lot of his attacks hit more than once.
His Neutral Special and Grab are fast and long range.
If it were me, I'd put him in high.
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Post by DGN on Feb 20, 2011 9:13:19 GMT -5
No, its that sometimes, you can eat an enemy (himself) and somehow you fly downwards to your death.
I'd actually put him in med, but he's too glitchy to be useful, IMO.
I guess that you main him?
You're probably the first person to do that.
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Post by gigapichu on Feb 20, 2011 9:25:20 GMT -5
Im the only Yoshi Mainer?
Im probably the only Knuckles Mainer as well.
I toetahlly rock.
"HUUUUUUUUUH!!"
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Post by Dettadeus on Feb 20, 2011 11:54:55 GMT -5
Oh goody, all four of my mains are high tier. And I'm trying to main Saki also, but he's kind of difficult to get used to.
I agree with the placement of the top tier, those are always the guys I have difficulty beating as Krystal. Well, except meta knight. He's actually really easy because of his lack of projectiles.
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Post by danick on Feb 20, 2011 12:18:59 GMT -5
PEACH LOW?  ? WTF |
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 20, 2011 12:58:15 GMT -5
Tails is top? Wow, I always knew he had potential, but you guys figured him out quick.
And yeah, I also disagree with Peach and Yoshi being low... I think Peach is really quite good, and Yoshi just does a lot of damage and is fast.
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Post by PartisanDaw on Feb 20, 2011 13:10:53 GMT -5
Also Y.Link is better than Link.
More Speed and faster attacks.And,yeah,you might be in right,but He Snake have some Hard killing moves.
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 20, 2011 14:00:37 GMT -5
Snake's really good at controlling the stage. He has two mines that can be placed on the stage at the same time, grenades, and the Nikita missile. He loses to some characters up-close though.
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Post by PartisanDaw on Feb 20, 2011 14:04:57 GMT -5
His DTilt,STilt and Jab have Killing potential.
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 21, 2011 0:19:12 GMT -5
His Jab is probably the best in the game. It does a lot of damage for a jab and has KO power. It's very scary! Snake has gotten some buffs over the course of SSBC's lifetime, though he has always been considered "low tier" by fans.
My personal list for 0.6 is this:
--- High Tier ---
Goku
Ristar
---Mid-High Tier---
Lucas
Fox
Krystal
--- Mid Tier ---
Everyone else
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Post by member 777 on Feb 21, 2011 1:14:10 GMT -5
i dont see ness on high was is that
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Post by gigapichu on Feb 21, 2011 7:19:27 GMT -5
His Jab is probably the best in the game. It does a lot of damage for a jab and has KO power. It's very scary! Snake has gotten some buffs over the course of SSBC's lifetime, though he has always been considered "low tier" by fans. My personal list for 0.6 is this: --- High Tier --- Goku Ristar ---Mid-High Tier--- Lucas Fox Krystal --- Mid Tier --- Everyone else I totally agree with this. :3 Most of the characters in Crusade seem ballanced to me, but these guys always seemed to stand out as being slightly harder to kill. Ristar has Godly range and his Up and Down Smashes both hit multiple times, dealing massive damage each time you get hit with them. His N. Special is obviously very annoying, it being a really long grab attack. Also, his short stature makes him harder to hit with some moves. I tried beating a Lv. 9 Ristar with Mach Rider, and I had to try EIGHT TIMES before I won. Thus, It is totally plausable for me how he's in Highest tier. Goku, I never really had TOO much trouble fighting. Only a few things. His Side Special is EXTREMELY Spammable. His CPU always spams that projectile pulling it off so quicly I have no time to even dodge it. I can jump over it, yes, but my only hope of hitting him while he spams is to get behind him. When I do that though, he uses a Smash attack and knocks me away... Oh, his Side Smash is also pretty dang annoying. Doing big damage and hitting twice. He can also pull off those Kamehamehas really quick, too. They are incredibly spammable. Also, it's a melee attack, so you can't reflect it. Lucas obviously has many options in battle, a paralyzing move, a burying move, a freezing move, multi-hit attacks, strong smashes, air grabs, projectiles, Reflects projectiles with side smash, Final Smash that covers the whole stage... Actually, it almost seems like he should be up with Ristar and Goku. Lucas has more options than any of the other characters. He's even a pretty fast character, and can pull off attacks quickly. To top it all off, Lucas' attacks are all really strong. If this game had online, Lucas would definately be my most feared opponent. Unless a better character comes along. Fox and Krystal... I don't even need to really mention. StarFox characters have always been tops in Smash Bros., no matter who it was. They both have Projectiles (Krystal Moreso), they both have great combos, they both have great recovery (Fox Moreso), ...So yeah, StarFox is high tier. Why am I not suprised.  |
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Post by PartisanDaw on Feb 21, 2011 8:14:26 GMT -5
Hey,falcon you forgot Bomberman in high. lol
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 21, 2011 19:10:45 GMT -5
His Jab is probably the best in the game. It does a lot of damage for a jab and has KO power. It's very scary! Snake has gotten some buffs over the course of SSBC's lifetime, though he has always been considered "low tier" by fans. My personal list for 0.6 is this: --- High Tier --- Goku Ristar ---Mid-High Tier--- Lucas Fox Krystal --- Mid Tier --- Everyone else I totally agree with this. :3 Most of the characters in Crusade seem ballanced to me, but these guys always seemed to stand out as being slightly harder to kill. Ristar has Godly range and his Up and Down Smashes both hit multiple times, dealing massive damage each time you get hit with them. His N. Special is obviously very annoying, it being a really long grab attack. Also, his short stature makes him harder to hit with some moves. I tried beating a Lv. 9 Ristar with Mach Rider, and I had to try EIGHT TIMES before I won. Thus, It is totally plausable for me how he's in Highest tier. Goku, I never really had TOO much trouble fighting. Only a few things. His Side Special is EXTREMELY Spammable. His CPU always spams that projectile pulling it off so quicly I have no time to even dodge it. I can jump over it, yes, but my only hope of hitting him while he spams is to get behind him. When I do that though, he uses a Smash attack and knocks me away... Oh, his Side Smash is also pretty dang annoying. Doing big damage and hitting twice. He can also pull off those Kamehamehas really quick, too. They are incredibly spammable. Also, it's a melee attack, so you can't reflect it. Lucas obviously has many options in battle, a paralyzing move, a burying move, a freezing move, multi-hit attacks, strong smashes, air grabs, projectiles, Reflects projectiles with side smash, Final Smash that covers the whole stage... Actually, it almost seems like he should be up with Ristar and Goku. Lucas has more options than any of the other characters. He's even a pretty fast character, and can pull off attacks quickly. To top it all off, Lucas' attacks are all really strong. If this game had online, Lucas would definately be my most feared opponent. Unless a better character comes along. Fox and Krystal... I don't even need to really mention. StarFox characters have always been tops in Smash Bros., no matter who it was. They both have Projectiles (Krystal Moreso), they both have great combos, they both have great recovery (Fox Moreso), ...So yeah, StarFox is high tier. Why am I not suprised. Well, I am glad you agree. I am trying to bring up some of the lower characters and bring these top guys down, but just barely. Lucas's stun tricks are actually the main reason he isn't in Mid Tier. Also, he has good normal moves. In the next version, he'll be more balanced, but not worse, I think. For the next version, expect this: everyone gets buffed except top tiers. There will be some slight changes to the engine, such as more air momentum and speed, shorter shield stun, and slower air dodges, so it'll make the game feel a bit different. Hey,falcon you forgot Bomberman in high. lol Hmm... Maybe. Bomberman is really fun to play. He might be better than I thought. But then again, I don't play him a whole lot. |
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Post by gigapichu on Feb 21, 2011 19:25:58 GMT -5
I play this game enough to agree with what the developer thinks. Gonna Buff everyone except the top tiers? Wouldn't it be easier to downgrade the top tiers instead? |
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Post by falcon8r on Feb 22, 2011 1:23:57 GMT -5
Yes, but no. I am going to downgrade the top tiers a bit, but I think a lot of the other characters need some help. Some need stronger strong points, others need to cover their weaknesses better. For example, I think that while Ness has good combos and solid offense, he needs more range on some attacks to make up for his current lack of range.
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